Can't Have It Both Ways, Either U Support Random DRUG Testing or U Don't!!!

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

The whole purpose of the test would be to deter someone from cheating. There are ways to try to beat the system especially with a 14 day window but not everyone would be willing to take that risk. If you gamble and test dirty its career suicide. Its like putting a club on your car steering wheel. Some one can get that thing off if they really want your car but they risk getting caught cause it may take longer. Also it may not be worth the trouble to do it. I don't think anyone is saying the testing is 100% full-proof but it works as a deterrent and some may not want to risk trying to beat it or going through the trouble.

Going through the trouble of taking the test all together.

[Khalid X]

The whole purpose of the test would be to deter someone from cheating. There are ways to try to beat the system especially with a 14 day window but not everyone would be willing to take that risk. If you gamble and test dirty its career suicide. Its like putting a club on your car steering wheel. Some one can get that thing off if they really want your car but they risk getting caught cause it may take longer. Also it may not be worth the trouble to do it. I don't think anyone is saying the testing is 100% full-proof but it works as a deterrent and some may not want to risk trying to beat it or going through the trouble.

I can see your point but you do know that no athlete (atleast no smart one) takes PEDs prior to their season or event because they know they will get caught. Lets say they have random testing all camp long...even up to fight night. Someone could be doping and training to get the benefits, sign a contract to fight a opponent, cycle to get clean, and pass all those test with flying colors. While all of this is happening, they will still have all the benefits from their prior use.

This is one reason why I feel it should be done year round (which may be impossible) for them to be effective. There are so many reasons Floyd's test wont work and why I really think the commissions need to be involved to make them work right.

[Pullcounter]

I can see your point but you do know that no athlete (atleast no smart one) takes PEDs prior to their season or event because they know they will get caught. Lets say they have random testing all camp long...even up to fight night. Someone could be doping and training to get the benefits, sign a contract to fight a opponent, cycle to get clean, and pass all those test with flying colors. While all of this is happening, they will still have all the benefits from their prior use.

This is one reason why I feel it should be done year round (which may be impossible) for them to be effective. There are so many reasons Floyd's test wont work and why I really think the commissions need to be involved to make them work right.

yeah... don't the olympic testing do it year round and not just prior to the event?

[carts]

Then why did Pac refuse the $25 million drug test?

so why take the test if its useless!! ask that question to floyd!!

[Horus]

Clottey does have a history coming over weight


"Initially yesterday he was a little over 151, had to sweat off two pounds to reach the agreed upon weight."

[M.I Truth ?]

Going through the trouble of taking the test all together.

LOL. I think if 24/7 happens to get any footage of the testing and it looks like no big deal then public opinion will pressure Pac. If it comes across as being a minimal inconvenience then it could interesting.

[Horus]

It basically comes down to the fact that people wanted to make sure Floyd wasnt just indirectly accusing Manny of taking steroids by demanding the tests and that Floyd was serious about "cleaning up the sport."

To be fair the standard of the blood and urine testing began when contract negotiations with Pac started. Its not like Manny went into the fight knowing those demands would be made.

As for the weight penalty thing that was a relevant demand because in floyd's last fight he came in over the weight limit; Clottey never did that. And the penalty was there to ensure he would not do it again.

"Initially yesterday he was a little over 151, had to sweat off two pounds to reach the agreed upon weight."




So once again why didnt Pacquiao ask for an enormous, never seen before weight penalty with Clottey like he did with Mayweather?

[Pullcounter]

"Initially yesterday he was a little over 151, had to sweat off two pounds to reach the agreed upon weight."




So once again why didnt Pacquiao ask for an enormous, never seen before weight penalty with Clottey like he did with Mayweather?

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[M.I Truth ?]

I can see your point but you do know that no athlete (atleast no smart one) takes PEDs prior to their season or event because they know they will get caught. Lets say they have random testing all camp long...even up to fight night. Someone could be doping and training to get the benefits, sign a contract to fight a opponent, cycle to get clean, and pass all those test with flying colors. While all of this is happening, they will still have all the benefits from their prior use.

This is one reason why I feel it should be done year round (which may be impossible) for them to be effective. There are so many reasons Floyd's test wont work and why I really think the commissions need to be involved to make them work right.

The guys who have been foolish enough to get caught using in boxing were using in camp though. From what I understand from what Conte has said shane used during conditioning in training camp. He said Shane shot EPO weeks before the fight.

[MidnightBliss]

People still think this? I thought everyone at least understood that the testing was there from day one of negotiations. No matter where you stand on subject you should still at least accept that this was not a last second demand.

Yeah of course there were testing negotiations from the start. Before Floyd implemented his own testing Policy, and i must admit a well disguised smoke bomb. Bravo to Floyd for finding a way out.