Tito in retrospect...

[NiGe2011]

I'm watching Winky and Tito through again tonight, and I am enjoying watching Wink' do his thing and kind of break Tito down. But then comes the post fight interview with Trinidad and I feel the strangest thing. I feel kind of bad for Trinidad. And not because he lost, but because I think this quick nosedive his career took will help people forget how good he really was. Now, I have never really liked Tito, and have rooted against him literally every fight that I have watched him in. But I have also come to accept that he was a comet that blazed across our sport. Sure we will remember him getting dominated by Hopkins and Winky in two of his last four fights. But even that can't take away what he was, which was dominant for long time. Unfortunatly I get the feeling that is not how people are going to remember him. I think he will be thought of decades from now as a one dimensional slugger who could not contend with fighters who chose to box him. And Tito struggling with boxers is part of the story, but it is not who he was. When you look at his resume you see a veritable list of boxing's who's who that have fallen to Felix. Trinidad decisioned Pernell Whitaker and Hector Camacho. He knocked out Oba Carr and William Joppy, which was something even the great Bernard Hopkins was unable to do. He essentially tainted younger fighters like David 'The American Dream' Reid and Fernando Vargas, neither of whom would ever be the same after fights with Tito. He was the first man ever to drop and KO Ricardo Mayorga. And at the very least he was able to fight to a razor thin decision, win or lose, against boxing's other brightest star for this era- Oscar De La Hoya. But this is not what is in our memories. My memories of Trinidad of late have been of him hitting the canvas against Hopkins in the final round. Or his swollen face as he could not find any answer against Winky Wright- both likely hall of famers in their own right. But I have also come to terms with the idea that I had never given Trinidad enough credit. That the only reason I was able to root so hard against him is because the fighters that he was squaring off against for all those years were good enough that I was able to believe they could beat him. I have also come to terms with the idea that Trinidad was just better then most of them, whether they were boxer's or punchers. Winky Wright will get his moment in the sun, and he certainly has earned every second of it. But I can only hope that a fighter that I have always considered the villian will get his due credit too. Because when all is said and done, Felix Trinidad proved his greatness to us all a long time ago- and that should be remembered.

[Run]

Ill tell you what I dont like

I hate the fact, that 75% of his supposed "fans" and supporters on this site....as well as many Puerto Ricans threw him to the dogs after he lost to the better boxer. Very....very unsettling to me. I lost respect for several posters here who said they were embarrased by his loss.

Shame on them, in the worst way.



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[Exciterx30]

I'm watching Winky and Tito through again tonight, and I am enjoying watching Wink' do his thing and kind of break Tito down. But then comes the post fight interview with Trinidad and I feel the strangest thing. I feel kind of bad for Trinidad. And not because he lost, but because I think this quick nosedive his career took will help people forget how good he really was. Now, I have never really liked Tito, and have rooted against him literally every fight that I have watched him in. But I have also come to accept that he was a comet that blazed across our sport. Sure we will remember him getting dominated by Hopkins and Winky in two of his last four fights. But even that can't take away what he was, which was dominant for long time. Unfortunatly I get the feeling that is not how people are going to remember him. I think he will be thought of decades from now as a one dimensional slugger who could not contend with fighters who chose to box him. And Tito struggling with boxers is part of the story, but it is not who he was. When you look at his resume you see a veritable list of boxing's who's who that have fallen to Felix. Trinidad decisioned Pernell Whitaker and Hector Camacho. He knocked out Oba Carr and William Joppy, which was something even the great Bernard Hopkins was unable to do. He essentially tainted younger fighters like David 'The American Dream' Reid and Fernando Vargas, neither of whom would ever be the same after fights with Tito. He was the first man ever to drop and KO Ricardo Mayorga. And at the very least he was able to fight to a razor thin decision, win or lose, against boxing's other brightest star for this era- Oscar De La Hoya. But this is not what is in our memories. My memories of Trinidad of late have been of him hitting the canvas against Hopkins in the final round. Or his swollen face as he could not find any answer against Winky Wright- both likely hall of famers in their own right. But I have also come to terms with the idea that I had never given Trinidad enough credit. That the only reason I was able to root so hard against him is because the fighters that he was squaring off against for all those years were good enough that I was able to believe they could beat him. I have also come to terms with the idea that Trinidad was just better then most of them, whether they were boxer's or punchers. Winky Wright will get his moment in the sun, and he certainly has earned every second of it. But I can only hope that a fighter that I have always considered the villian will get his due credit too. Because when all is said and done, Felix Trinidad proved his greatness to us all a long time ago- and that should be remembered.

Good to see the respect from someone who disliked him. I wrote an essay not too long ago about Trinidad's accomplishments. Maybe you read it, but if you did not and are interested, the thread's called "Short Trinidad Essay".