Johnson or Tarver would not have beaten Roy in his Prime

[Cleary23]

Whether you like ROy or not you have to agree that Tarver and especially Glen Johnson would not have beaten ROy Jones in his prime.

Roy should have never came back down from heavyweight. He shouldve stayed and retired after a couple more title defences.

The only way I would tell Roy to fight a few more is if he goes heavyweight.

[neils7147933]

Whether you like ROy or not you have to agree that Tarver and especially Glen Johnson would not have beaten ROy Jones in his prime.

Roy should have never came back down from heavyweight. He shouldve stayed and retired after a couple more title defences.

The only way I would tell Roy to fight a few more is if he goes heavyweight.

Why would we have to agree to something like that? If Roy hadn't "jumped" to heavyweight when Tarver was stalking him, he would have had to face Tarver. And he very well might have lost.

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Why would we have to agree to something like that? If Roy hadn't "jumped" to heavyweight when Tarver was stalking him, he would have had to face Tarver. And he very well might have lost.

ok, tarver was a tougher opponent than ruiz was? is that you are implying?

[Cleary23]

no im not implying that im implying that he hasnt been the same after losing that weight. You cant walk around at 200 pounds and then drop to 175 for your fights and be a 100%

Maybe Roy could get away with that when he was young but not when he's hit this age. How many fights you have ages you too.

I dont get why you ROy haters who have the mind of ****in three year old babies have to disagree with everything before you even think.

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no im not implying that im implying that he hasnt been the same after losing that weight. You cant walk around at 200 pounds and then drop to 175 for your fights and be a 100%

Maybe Roy could get away with that when he was young but not when he's hit this age. How many fights you have ages you too.

I dont get why you ROy haters who have the mind of ****in three year old babies have to disagree with everything before you even think.

I am not a roy hater, he is a great fighter, better than anyone who fought during his prime (up to 2003)
and i rate him p4p higher than anyone in the last 20 years

YOU have the reading ability of a ****ing 3yo, read who I am quoting in the post. do you read cleary23 somewhere on the quote line?

I always said that after the 2nd fight that roy was over bcos he lost weight and MOST IMPORTANT...bcos he is 35, which is not a good age for boxing if you have relied on your reflexes and your speed for your whole career.

I completely agree with you, and I will put more on the plate:
the fact that he was KOed by 2 fighters with a very different style, tells the truth:
no one figured him out, tarver and johnson both fought a shot fighter

[Cleary23]

Man I wasnt saying the three year old **** to you My bad if it looked like that it was directed to the other dude

[neils7147933]

Tarver WAS a tougher match-up than Ruiz.

So I'm not implying it. I'm saying it.

Ruiz's game plan was to punch and lean on Roy. When that plan didn't work because the ref kept breaking them up and Roy would duck out behind the ref, Ruiz had no shot. I don't think anyone thought Ruiz would beat Jones on points. He had to be able to catch him and hit him.

Tarver very well might have been Jones back then. Jones fans seem to have as many excuses as he does. Plus they seem to be name-callers.

[neils7147933]

Whether you like ROy or not you have to agree that Tarver and especially Glen Johnson would not have beaten ROy Jones in his prime.

Roy should have never came back down from heavyweight. He shouldve stayed and retired after a couple more title defences.

The only way I would tell Roy to fight a few more is if he goes heavyweight.

A heavyweight punch might have killed Roy last night. Roy got KO'd by a LIGHT heavyweight who WAS NOT A BIG PUNCHER.

[Cleary23]

Are you ******?

He cant foight well at lightheavyweight ne more He can fight well at HW so he would be able to evade that punch at HW

[neils7147933]

He has one fight at heavyweight over a year ago. Since then, he has been knocked out twice. Are you saying if he had more weight to not be able to move from a punch all of a sudden he's better?