you guys realize that clottey is pacman's first real welter weight.

[Spacey1991]

Joshua Clottey is pacman's first real welterweight that he is fighting.

Oscar de la hoya = was a jr middle weight who drained himself to 147

Hatton was at 140

Cotto was at 145. 145 aint 147.

So technically Clottey is the only one.

Even though I didn't agree with the Cotto fight being at 145 instead of 147, the Cotto win was still legit, he beat a legit WW convincingly that night.

[The_Demon]

Cotto's best weight was 140 pounds, where his lack of Defense was balanced out by the fact he could take the punches of a 140 pounder and recover and deal his own damage. Once he became a ww he started taking more and more damage and started taking on fighters that can walk through his shots and and seriously cause some damage.

na he was clearly drained at 140

[AllEyesOpen]

na he was clearly drained at 140

He was winning and taking a lot less damage then at 147. I'm not saying he wasn't weight drained, but he was more effective at 140 then at 147.

[disolly]

Joshua Clottey is pacman's first real welterweight that he is fighting.

Oscar de la hoya = was a jr middle weight who drained himself to 147

Hatton was at 140

Cotto was at 145. 145 aint 147.

So technically Clottey is the only one.

Really, I think most boxing fans know that, Technically the Miguel fight was welterweight though. And Cotto wasn't drained at 145, he had to lose one more pound than he usually does, on top of that , I am very confident that Cotto would have looked the same at 146 or 147. Cotto actually looked pretty damn good in the Pac fight, until the speed, movement and strategy of manny started to break him down.

[Hi-Dro]

Cotto was the first Welterweight

[disolly]

Cotto's best weight was 140 pounds, where his lack of Defense was balanced out by the fact he could take the punches of a 140 pounder and recover and deal his own damage. Once he became a ww he started taking more and more damage and started taking on fighters that can walk through his shots and and seriously cause some damage.

kind of agree, but WW was also the most competitive division in the last decade probably. I mean the champ at 140 was ricky... the biggest factor was fighting good guys to fighting some of the best p4p guys in the sport. And he started fighting guys with some of the best chins in the sport. Ricardo Torres beat miguel up pretty bad at 140 though, until cotto went to town on his body.

[mrcupide2]

hmm so you guys are saying that 140.1-147 is welter and cotto was welter. Okay...well how come you guys saying Mayweather Jr and Marquez wasn;t welther then lol

[Haterfree]

^ Because a lot of those people are just a bunch of haters

[-The Glove-]

hmm so you guys are saying that 140.1-147 is welter and cotto was welter. Okay...well how come you guys saying Mayweather Jr and Marquez wasn;t welther then lol

Who the hell said that?

[GTL]

clottey is a good welter.. top 3..
but his style is perfect for pacquiao to unload on him