****, I forgot how badly Hopkins torched Pavlik,

[-Antonio-]

That was a great performance because I didn't expect him to be so offensive. He actually put some old BHop combinations together.

[Mr. Fantastic]

A MW vs a LHW. Such an accomplishment!!!

[-Antonio-]

I hate when ppl blame the weight, Winky arguably won his fight with Hopkins and he is a career JMW.....Pavlik is over all just not that good.

He is a big MW, with a good reach and power over most of his opponents.

The Pavlik fight being at 170 helped Hopkins slightly because he's stronger in the clinch. Still at 160 it's Tito all over again, so the weight doesn't matter.

Wink on the other hand was a career JMW that fought at 160 for 2 years. Having that fight at 170 made a big difference to me.

[Jim Jeffries]

The Pavlik fight being at 170 helped Hopkins slightly because he's stronger in the clinch. Still at 160 it's Tito all over again, so the weight doesn't matter.

Wink on the other hand was a career JMW that fought at 160 for 2 years. Having that fight at 170 made a big difference to me.

I would agree on the Pavlik fight being similar at 160, except for the fact that there's no way in hell Hopkins makes 160 these days. Hell he was struggling to make it 5 years ago.

Nevertheless, great performance by Hopkins, Kelly didn't win a single round.

[Hi-Dro]

yeah he schooled him pretty bad

good performance by hopkins