I dont like Lopez at Number 2. Cruz or Rojas should be number 2.
I suppose. A case could be made for any of the three. Cruz has a couple solid recent wins; Rojas too. It's not a string of big wins for either. Lopez knocked out previous number two, Luevano, which is as good as anything else. Not a huge gap between any.
Originally posted by JakeNDaBox
Here's the thing with Gamboa:
A year from now, my man is running **** at 126. The only thing preventing that would be Arum keeping him the hell away from JuanMa.
However...
Until that day comes, he can only be ranked based on achievement, not solely on potential. and the truth is, he doesn't have a lot of notable wins yet. JuanMa has the better body of work overall, not to mention that Luevano is far and away better than anyone Gamboa has faced to date.
Fighting and beating Caballero should definitely bolster his ranking. But until he gets more quality wins under his belt (which has more to do with Top Rank), his ranking won't always reflect his talent.
What Jake said. Gamboa at six is almost too high until he beats a real contender. He's got as jokey a belt as there is in boxing right now considering John never even unified to be called "Super", or missed a mando. I THINK Gamboa could be the guy...he has to beat a contender for that to be fully realized. I anticipate he will.
Originally posted by cool-jupiter
Never thought Aoh would be ranked this high... He is good as Japanese fighters go, my estimation is that he hasn't been anybody on a world scale.
The draw with Enoki, and what could easily have been two wins over a Larios who was showing some last signs on life, are more than enough to meirt a lower top ten rating.
A year from now, my man is running **** at 126. The only thing preventing that would be Arum keeping him the hell away from JuanMa.
However...
Until that day comes, he can only be ranked based on achievement, not solely on potential. and the truth is, he doesn't have a lot of notable wins yet. JuanMa has the better body of work overall, not to mention that Luevano is far and away better than anyone Gamboa has faced to date.
Fighting and beating Caballero should definitely bolster his ranking. But until he gets more quality wins under his belt (which has more to do with Top Rank), his ranking won't always reflect his talent.
Luevano isn't that good (very weak titleholder in my view) and plus Lopez only has one fight at that weight. There are cases of where Ring and other rankings don't have a belt holder ranked over a contender. I don't think Berto is ranked over Clottey (on ESPN at least. I don't know about Ring) for example, and he shouldn't be. I probably agree that Lopez's overall resume might be slightly better than Gamboa's, but all of his fights were at 122 until a few weeks ago.
And another thing I take into consideration is that Lopez absolutely smoked the guy who would've beaten Juan Ma in a 15 round fight. Gamboa should be ranked higher. IMO.
A year from now, my man is running **** at 126. The only thing preventing that would be Arum keeping him the hell away from JuanMa.
However...
Until that day comes, he can only be ranked based on achievement, not solely on potential. and the truth is, he doesn't have a lot of notable wins yet. JuanMa has the better body of work overall, not to mention that Luevano is far and away better than anyone Gamboa has faced to date.
Fighting and beating Caballero should definitely bolster his ranking. But until he gets more quality wins under his belt (which has more to do with Top Rank), his ranking won't always reflect his talent.
Featherweight is pretty stacked right now. You have a potential Featherweight Tournament. Just like the Super 6 thing goin on with the Super Middleweights.
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