Why wasn't there any su****ion about Juan Manuel Marquez?

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  • -MAKAVELLI-
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    #31
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
    I was using other major athletes as examples. Pacquiao is a major athlete so when a drug test is demanded and Pacquiao says "no". It should be no surprise about the backlash.



    Doesn't matter if he wasn't required to. Mayweather wanted it apart of the contract, Pacquiao said no. The backlash was going to happen because he said no. It's apart of the game. I don't see how you are tortilla warrior can't understand that. When your a superstar and you say no to things like drug test (required or not), the backlash is bound to happen.

    I stated from the beginning of the whole fiasco.
    If Pacquiao would have just said YES. Mayweather would be the one looking like the bad guy, as if he was bitching out and Pacquiao wouldn't even be fazed. But that didn't happen, thats why Pacquiao is getting more of the backlash.


    if the Boston Celtics asked Kobe to take an extra test, aside from the NBA mandated tests and he told them to **** off, he wouldn't get any backlash


    especially if the Celtics just played Lebron and didn't ask him to take any tests

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #32
      Originally posted by Makavelli
      if the Boston Celtics asked Kobe to take an extra test, aside from the NBA mandated tests and he told them to **** off, he wouldn't get any backlash


      especially if the Celtics just played Lebron and didn't ask him to take any tests
      Lol, those sports don't work that way. I was using the "superstar" athletes as an example. If Andy Murray accused Roger Federer of PEDs and then we hear that Federer refused an ATP drug test. Fedex would get some serious backlash.

      Boxing is an individual sport. Each individual is their own franchise. They sit at a table and come to terms. If one boxer said "I want olympic style, random blood testing." and the other said "Nah not before [enter number of days here]" and then the other says "alright, what about half way between the fight" and then the other says "nah, I aint fighting with you then."

      Backlash is bound to happen. PERIOD. We are talking superstar, not some average joe. A superstar.

      If that chinese golf player was ****in all of the girls in Vegas and was found out, no one would care. Because its a "superstar" as in Tiger Woods, all hell breaks loose.

      The backlash is bound to happen..... Also, those are EXAMPLES. If NSB doesn't know what examples are, I quit NSB.

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        #33
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        Lol, those sports don't work that way. I was using the "superstar" athletes as an example. If Andy Murray accused Roger Federer of PEDs and then we hear that Federer refused an ATP drug test. Fedex would get some serious backlash.

        Boxing is an individual sport. Each individual is their own franchise. They sit at a table and come to terms. If one boxer said "I want olympic style, random blood testing." and the other said "Nah not before [enter number of days here]" and then the other says "alright, what about half way between the fight" and then the other says "nah, I aint fighting with you then."

        Backlash is bound to happen. PERIOD. We are talking superstar, not some average joe. A superstar.

        If that chinese golf player was ****in all of the girls in Vegas and was found out, no one would care. Because its a "superstar" as in Tiger Woods, all hell breaks loose.

        The backlash is bound to happen..... Also, those are EXAMPLES. If NSB doesn't know what examples are, I quit NSB.


        but that's not the case Flick...PAC has taken the tests that are imposed by the NSAC...first off, Andy Murray questioning Roger would only bring on backlash to himself...in a 'who the **** are you' sense if Roger had taken all of the tests the tennis commission asked him to

        the only backlash i've seen are from the over obsessed floyd fans on websites

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        • MidnightBliss
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          #34
          There was no su****ion about JMM, because PBF knew he could beat him at welterweight.

          He was fighting an older, slower, smaller version of himself.
          Last edited by MidnightBliss; 02-28-2010, 11:05 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Makavelli
            but that's not the case Flick...PAC has taken the tests that are imposed by the NSAC...first off, Andy Murray questioning Roger would only bring on backlash to himself...in a 'who the **** are you' sense if Roger had taken all of the tests the tennis commission asked him to

            the only backlash i've seen are from the over obsessed floyd fans on websites
            lol, at the Murray thing. That probably would happen.

            But honestly, i'm just trying to say that you can't be surprised with it. It's bound to happen when your a superstar.

            I personally don't think he does steroids. But I also state that it does raise flags that he would refuse a blood test. Where as all the over-obsessed pac fans are trying to make it seem like Mayweather is scared.

            I'm a fan of both so I defend both sides, logically though. lol

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              #36
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              lol, at the Murray thing. That probably would happen.

              But honestly, i'm just trying to say that you can't be surprised with it. It's bound to happen when your a superstar.

              I personally don't think he does steroids. But I also state that it does raise flags that he would refuse a blood test. Where as all the over-obsessed pac fans are trying to make it seem like Mayweather is scared.

              I'm a fan of both so I defend both sides, logically though. lol

              if PAC was fighting once a month and KOing everyone and healing from is wounds a week later, then major su****ions would be raised

              as i stated before this whole thing blew up, i think the fight got killed by diva posturing on both sides...Floyd for trying too hard to get into PAC's head and PAC not bowing down to the extra demands...people underestimate PAC's ego but its one of the bigger ones in this sport and him being 'dictated' to do something that he wasn't comfortable with was a sure way to kill negotiations

              but i will state the obvious; no extra demands and we'd all be in a fever pitch for a superfight in 2 weeks

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                #37
                Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
                In his first two fights at lightweight,

                at the age of

                35,

                he knocked out two guys who had never been stopped before.


                Why suspect the guy that JMM, in many eyes, beat?

                But not JMM.

                Somethings fishy about suspecting one man over the other.
                obviously floyd was not as impressed with Marquez great wins over lightweights as he was with pac destruction of a welter named cotto who he did not want to fight and a fighter named hatton that took him 10 rounds instead of 2 to destroy him

                is safe to assume that floyd is intimidated by pac wins over hatton and especially cotto and there fore wanted random blood test? yes

                is it safe to assume that a fighter that stands to make a career high pay day but passes it up the payday because he is not willing to subject himself to random blood test is dirty? yes

                both assumptions do not obviously become true facts but pac ducking or avoiding random blood test certainly only adds more fuel to the flames that he is using performance enhancers.

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                • mookiep
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                  #38
                  diaz has a weak chin, u can tell because paulie keeps rockin him and opening cuts.

                  you look into JMM's eyes and u see an honest man. He aint no cheater.

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                  • Clyde Barrow
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                    #39
                    That was a farce fight. PBF was already punking Marquez by virtue of the fight being made period. No need for any extra demands.

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                    • Vasyl’s dad
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                      #40
                      I thought the stans would have a better justification for this.

                      JMM KOs two guys who had never been stopped before, even when they spent a large portion of their careers at lightweight, and JMM was in his first two fights there.


                      and then,

                      he goes and challenges a guy,

                      two weight divisions higher.


                      Sure is strange as to why he wasn't suspected.


                      lol @ these guys pretending they care about the cleanliness of the sport.
                      Last edited by Vasyl’s dad; 03-02-2010, 01:17 AM.

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