Josh Clottey has much more potential

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Watching the Cotto fight, one thing is noticeable: Not only is Clottey stronger and more durable than Cotto, but his handspeed is equal or even better than Cotto's.

I believe the reason he's lost and why he doesn't get many knockouts is because of his handcuff defense. It's bsically Winky in a 147 body with a tad more pressure. That style doesn't really work at 160-175 and has no place in any weight division below 154. The fighters are simply too fast and too active, and before the pressure gets to any top-10 fighter, the fight's over.

The most detrimental aspect of this fighting style/strategy is that Clottey doesn't know how to make a fighter walk into his shots. All of Manny Pacquiao's opponents who gave him trouble knew how to make Manny move into his punches.... however of course, Manny has vastly improved sinced getting edged by Morales.

If Clottey only knew how to move in and out, like Ike Quartey, and better ring generalship, we'd be looking at a truly elite fighter.

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he needs to up the intensity in his workouts and up his stamina.

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Watching the Cotto fight, one thing is noticeable: Not only is Clottey stronger and more durable than Cotto, but his handspeed is equal or even better than Cotto's.

I believe the reason he's lost and why he doesn't get many knockouts is because of his handcuff defense. It's bsically Winky in a 147 body with a tad more pressure. That style doesn't really work at 160-175 and has no place in any weight division below 154. The fighters are simply too fast and too active, and before the pressure gets to any top-10 fighter, the fight's over.

The most detrimental aspect of this fighting style/strategy is that Clottey doesn't know how to make a fighter walk into his shots. All of Manny Pacquiao's opponents who gave him trouble knew how to make Manny move into his punches.... however of course, Manny has vastly improved sinced getting edged by Morales.

If Clottey only knew how to move in and out, like Ike Quartey, and better ring generalship, we'd be looking at a truly elite fighter.

Handcuff defense has little or nothing to do with it, it’s Clottey’s lack of fighting consistently that causes him fights.

Like I said in a previous thread, Pac increases his intensity as the fight progresses, for Clottey to fight like he did against Cotto would be an official loss.

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He may do some things better than Miguel but you forget to mention the things he doesn't do better than Miguel. I also disagree that he is stronger than Miguel. Miguel just doesn't take punches as well as Josh. Joshs work rate sucks bad and to me his defense isn't that tight. Up high his D is solid but he can get hit through the gloves and body work can be easily done. Miguel is not a one punch knockout guy but he has more zip on those punches than Josh as well. I think Pac will stop him.

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He may do some things better than Miguel but you forget to mention the things he doesn't do better than Miguel. I also disagree that he is stronger than Miguel. Miguel just doesn't take punches as well as Josh. Joshs work rate sucks bad and to me his defense isn't that tight. Up high his D is solid but he can get hit through the gloves and body work can be easily done. Miguel is not a one punch knockout guy but he has more zip on those punches than Josh as well. I think Pac will stop him.

bet you 10k that pac doesnt ko/tko clottey. U down???

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Watching the Cotto fight, one thing is noticeable: Not only is Clottey stronger and more durable than Cotto, but his handspeed is equal or even better than Cotto's.

I believe the reason he's lost and why he doesn't get many knockouts is because of his handcuff defense. It's bsically Winky in a 147 body with a tad more pressure. That style doesn't really work at 160-175 and has no place in any weight division below 154. The fighters are simply too fast and too active, and before the pressure gets to any top-10 fighter, the fight's over.

The most detrimental aspect of this fighting style/strategy is that Clottey doesn't know how to make a fighter walk into his shots. All of Manny Pacquiao's opponents who gave him trouble knew how to make Manny move into his punches.... however of course, Manny has vastly improved sinced getting edged by Morales.

If Clottey only knew how to move in and out, like Ike Quartey, and better ring generalship, we'd be looking at a truly elite fighter.

Abraham's been pretty successful using it.

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bet you 10k that pac doesnt ko/tko clottey. U down???

Sure, we could do that.