MURAD MUHAMMAD: I kept Pac away from African American fighters..

[Left Banned Tua]

I wouldn't even count Raheem. By the time Pac went up to 135 Raheem was not a legitimate opponent anymore... The other 3 you can make a case for like I did earlier...

i know.

throwing them a bone.

[M.I.C.]

No one is more trustworthy than a promoter, especially one you sue.

Well if you find evidence that he is lying present it, but so far, he has presented some pretty good evidence that he's never put Pac in with an African American fighter, I was able to verify that this is true.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I wouldn't even count Raheem. By the time Pac went up to 135 Raheem was not a legitimate opponent anymore... The other 3 you can make a case for like I did earlier...

Johnson, Grisby, Jones, Austin, would have interesting to watch.


Another thing Arum was also Gainers promoter. He couldve made that fight. But chose not to.

[The Gully Gad]

Well pac needs to do something for him and take his ass to a Dentist
you seen that mutha***as Teef?

Like prisoners holding bars waiting for there release date...

[letsgobrady]

funny how manny's former promoter says something some what negative about manny and it's all bull**** floyds former promoter arum says something about floyd and it's all true. ****in hippocrits

[ummmid]

Well if you find evidence that he is lying present it, but so far, he has presented some pretty good evidence that he's never put Pac in with an African American fighter, I was able to verify that this is true.

let me guess, you just skipped most of jro's posts since it was tough to debate with him and his logic/facts huh?

[PensionKiller]

How can you believe Arum to some extent when there is a ESPN article floating around here where Arum says PBF agreed to fight Margarito for the 8 mill offer if Arum would garuntee PBF 10 mill for Cotto and 20 mill for De la Hoya. When Arum said no cause he didn't think PBF was worth that much PBF bought out his contract. So what is it that Arum says that makes you believe what he says after PBF left him?

Cotto and Marg were atleast the same money as Hatton. Hatton did not have an PPV in the US and was not that famous in the US.

Cotto and Marg would have done more sales IMO.

Then his excuse is that they don't have a following.

Personally, I think he would have beaten both, but they were very dangerous. Marg had a solid chin and would not respect Floyd's punches and hit Floyd, but lsot to a wide UD.

Cotto just dealt with Judah and Mosely, and was a scary fighter at anyone at 147 IMO. He had enough of everything to give Floyd the biggest trouble at 147.

Floyd chose to negotiate a fight with Oscar again after beating Oscar in one of the most boring fights for such a huge event.

That's why I said I believe Arum on this. I have seen Floyd not fight the ebst WW's until now. I just hope Mosely does not break up.

How did those talks with Pac go?

I already stated that he talked for Pac but not for with Cotto and Marg, he chose to retire and not fight Oscar again.

That being said, how would he kow how it would go? Or he wouldn't waste his time trying to make the fight.

It can be said #if Pac accepted the tests there would be a fight, but if Floyd di not demand them, then there would also be a fight.

[DC Fight Fan]

I only got through 4 pages of this garbage and couldn't stomach anymore!

Are people really trying to say Pac ducked Derrick "F'n Smoke" Gainer? Please, that makes the people who believe that look ******.

Further, we are talking about Murad Muhhamed....quite possibly the most crooked man boxing has ever seen. And we want to believe anything that comes out of his mouth?

[cortdawg25]

I wouldn't even count Raheem. By the time Pac went up to 135 Raheem was not a legitimate opponent anymore... The other 3 you can make a case for like I did earlier...

but he could of went up in weight then and fought him and beat his conqueror's conqueror. Instead he chose to fight Morales in a revenge fight after losing to Raheem....which is weak!

[PensionKiller]

Well if you find evidence that he is lying present it, but so far, he has presented some pretty good evidence that he's never put Pac in with an African American fighter, I was able to verify that this is true.

Can it be said that Floyd has never faced a slick AA either?

Ofcourse,

BUT then who will you say that is a slick AA for him to face?

Exactly. There weren't any to my memory or atleast that good.