Champion vs Champion: 1984 vs 2005

[Bozo_no no]

Isn't Jeff Lacy the Super Middle weight Champ?

As of May 9th, the Ring has Super Middle vacent.

I like Lacey best at 168, but I was only inputting the ring rankings as they are at the moment.

[Yogi]

I think he had a slight reach advantage in terms of arm length but do you know if his back was as broad? I think that may have a slight effect on it too.

That's just the thing, a lot of the guys that Holmes had his way with would have troubled all of the HW champs of today. It speaks volumes about the current state of HW boxing.

Holmes reach is listed as being 81". Vitali's is listed as being 80" (both according to boxrec).

Gringo, the broadness of each of their backs is taken into account when measuring their respective reaches. Arms wide apart, fingertip to fingertip...That's a fighter's reach.

I thinks it's safe to say Vitali's back is thicker/wider than Holmes, because in his prime, Larry was fairly thin up in the shoulder area. That would also mean that Holmes' arm length more than makes up for the difference (considering Holmes' reach is slightly more), and he would have to be noticably longer in arm length than what Vitali is...Know what I mean?

[oldgringo]

Holmes reach is listed as being 81". Vitali's is listed as being 80" (both according to boxrec).

Gringo, the broadness of each of their backs is taken into account when measuring their respective reaches. Arms wide apart, fingertip to fingertip...That's a fighter's reach.

I thinks it's safe to say Vitali's back is thicker/wider than Holmes, because in his prime, Larry was fairly thin up in the shoulder area. That would also mean that Holmes' arm length more than makes up for the difference (considering Holmes' reach is slightly more), and he would have to be noticably longer in arm length than what Vitali is...Know what I mean?

Gotcha. I was thinking something else for some reason. Anyway, I think that you're right about the arm length and its only logical that Holmes would have the longer arms. Holmes himself was what....6'3 1/2 or something?

[Yogi]

Gotcha. I was thinking something else for some reason. Anyway, I think that you're right about the arm length and its only logical that Holmes would have the longer arms. Holmes himself was what....6'3 1/2 or something?

Yeah, Holmes was in that 6'3/6'4 range.

[JT1]

Winky would have no chance of outboxing Hearns. Never mind Leonard, Hearns also outboxed slicksters Hill and Benitez. The latter is an all time great and a superb boxer, but Tommy put on an absolute clinic. Tommy was a terror for the straight boxer beacuse not only could he outbox them but the threat of the huge right hand was always there.