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  • Pacquiao is still a great fighter even if on roids.

    That's my verdict. I think it's possible he's been roiding since the Diaz fight, not saying he is but it's a possibility. In any case, he still is a great fighter even if he's on roids. Roids can only do so much otherwise you could roid up any old journeyman and they'd become a world champion, which just wouldn't happen would it.

  • #2
    Yes I agree. Even if hes roiding(which I dont belive), I will still consider him as a great fighter just like Mosley, Oscar, and many others.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ben_London View Post
      That's my verdict. I think it's possible he's been roiding since the Diaz fight, not saying he is but it's a possibility. In any case, he still is a great fighter even if he's on roids. Roids can only do so much otherwise you could roid up any old journeyman and they'd become a world champion, which just wouldn't happen would it.


      Honestly i wholeheartedly agree......even if he is he is still great......


      you are 100% correct....roids aren't magic..they just allow you to work harder.........u still need to do the work and have the skill

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      • #4
        Is there anyone who isn't roided? They all spit juice.

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        • #5
          The only real positive effect roids/hgh would have on a fighter is endurance. They don't make them punch harder, they don't make them smarter or faster. Some may claim it may help a fighter be faster, but I cannot see it. Punching Power is 90% technique and hand size. The rest comes from your legs and back, Manny always had strong legs. Manny always had great stamina.

          So I cannot see what grounds those who accuse him of being roided comes from.

          I can however see many reasons how roiding or using HGH long term could have a negative effect on a fighter. I could see fighters struggle to make weight. I can see fighters retaining way too much water. I can see fighters throwing off their natural balance of muscle mass and causing them to slow down. The only benefit would be short term for overcoming an injury.

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          • #6
            Maybe, but is he as great as he perceived now!!! This guy is getting accolades such as fighter of the decade.....our fighter of the decade can't be on roids therfore his greatness will be taken from him because he cheated to get it, if he is ever proven to be on it.

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            • #7
              What's more positive is substance abuse like taking Xylocaine on a not so normal dosage...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                Maybe, but is he as great as he perceived now!!! This guy is getting accolades such as fighter of the decade.....our fighter of the decade can't be on roids therfore his greatness will be taken from him because he cheated to get it, if he is ever proven to be on it.
                True. In any case I have Bernard Hopkins as my fighter of the decade.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                  the only real positive effect roids/hgh would have on a fighter is endurance. They don't make them punch harder, they don't make them smarter or faster. Some may claim it may help a fighter be faster, but i cannot see it. Punching power is 90% technique and hand size. The rest comes from your legs and back, manny always had strong legs. Manny always had great stamina.

                  So i cannot see what grounds those who accuse him of being roided comes from.

                  I can however see many reasons how roiding or using hgh long term could have a negative effect on a fighter. I could see fighters struggle to make weight. I can see fighters retaining way too much water. I can see fighters throwing off their natural balance of muscle mass and causing them to slow down. The only benefit would be short term for overcoming an injury.
                  it can make u stronger by enabling u to train harder and longer. Guys don't get bigger and faster on roids for nothing. Please believe u will punch harder and be faster. In a sense u will be enhanced!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ben_london View Post
                    true. In any case i have bernard hopkins as my fighter of the decade.
                    i think the executiner is much more deserving than manny for sure. Roids or no roids!!

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