Who were the biggest under-achievers

[ejk22]

even with all the point Kirk lost i still had him ahead, the only rounds ruiz could win was win kirk lost points.

Not to get off the subject here, but is it not a coincidence that Joe "I help out fellow Puerto Rican boxers" Cortez, was the referee of this fight. I also like how people say that Ruiz defeated Johnson in this fight soundly. Those people must have been watching another fight because I also felt that Kirk Johnson was handling Ruiz fairly well in this fight before the decision to save Ruiz's ass was handed down.

[ispayder]

My choices would be Tyson and Bowe, both of them could have stayed much longer as champs.

[Tha Greatest]

ya

rid**** bowe
definately mike tyson

[pierresean]

Fernando Vargas

[bchynn]

Nunn.

I wouldn't say Tyson underachieved. His fame exceeds who he has actually beaten.

[strictlydope]

vargas comes to mind, and yea dont think i would put tyson in this category

[bchynn]

I'm not sure Vargas underachieved. I never expected him to beat Trinidad or DLH. He beat who he was supposed to beat.

[Dynamite76]

I have that issue of Big Book of Boxing and they were grading all of the Tommorow's Champs.Just about all of them (with the exception of Chris McDonald) could be considered underachievers on some level. Along with are Donald Curry, who took his talent for granted; Michael Dokes, who snorted it away being under the control of the Devil; Howard Davis Jr.,who had the backing and talent and still screwed up; Bernard Taylor, who didn't fight the quality of opposition he should have fought until late; and Greg Page, who, like Davis had the talent and backing and still messed up.

[Dynamite76]

He may not have been the biggest under-achiever in history, but the first fighter that popped into my head, was the former highly touted middleweight prospect from the early 80's, Alex Ramos.

This guy was a regular on NBC's 'Tomorrow's Champions' and showed great boxing skills in the early part of his career, as he had plenty of talent to work from; great jab, good handspeed, patience, body puncher, footwork, and pretty good power.

Here, this is what one boxing magazine I have said about him in the early parts of 1982, and I quote;

"Ramos is a prime candidate to succeed Ray Leonard as the sport's biggest superstar."

"May have the style to dethrone Marvin Hagler."

That gives you an idea what the boxing public thought of him and his potential, after seeing him display his skills on network TV a few times. From just those two comments, I'd say he was highly touted, wouldn't you?

The only thing is, somebody forgot to tell those writers that a fighter usually requires a decent chin to achieve much in the sport of boxing, which is something that they evetually found out Alex Ramos didn't have.

How in the hell could Alex lose to Ted Sanders?

[Slipx]

David Estrada