Undefeated record just prove that you havnt been fighting at the top level consistent

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Being undefeated is not a crime , now getting to the top , and calling urself the best , while not fighting the best competition possible and claiming ur undefeated and ur the greatest its pretty weak.

I know that Calzaghe makes me sick.

[-Spinal-]

This is only good for people that are fans of fighters that have losses. Pacquiao's first two losses were to nobodies. Tyson's first loss was to someone he should've beaten on paper. Dirrell's first loss is seen as a robbery. Roy Jones first loss was a DQ in a fight where he was battering his opponent and was wining the fight. Calzaghe fought at least 3 fighters that had a chance to beat him on paper, none of them beat him. Mayweather fought at least 4 guys that had a chance to beat him, none of them beat him. Arthur Abraham is undefeated and I think he's going to stay that way until he meets Ward or vice. Undefeated records does not mean you have not fought good comp consistently, it means that you're good at what you do. Excluding Ottke. Period.

[Guest]

This is only good for people that are fans of fighters that have losses. Pacquiao's first two losses were to nobodies. Tyson's first loss was to someone he should've beaten on paper. Dirrell's first loss is seen as a robbery. Roy Jones first loss was a DQ in a fight where he was battering his opponent and was wining the fight. Calzaghe fought at least 3 fighters that had a chance to beat him on paper, none of them beat him. Mayweather fought at least 4 guys that had a chance to beat him, none of them beat him. Arthur Abraham is undefeated and I think he's going to stay that way until he meets Ward or vice. Undefeated records does not mean you have not fought good comp consistently, it means that you're good at what you do. Excluding Ottke. Period.

The Ottke part is good. Ottke won some he should've lost just like some guys lost some they should've won so the record doesn't tell the real story all the time.

[Boxin']

Sugar Ray Robison has losses because he fought the toughest always and challenged himself his whole career, all of the fab four have losses, all the greats of the last generation (mosley, Trinidad, Delahoya, Hopkins, Jones, TOney) have losses, when I see a guy like Joe Calzaghe being considered amongst the greatest of all time because hes undefeated or people (to a much lesser degree) comparing Floyd Mayweather to all time greats I just think "", All, ALL of the greatest of all time have retired with losses, the only guy who retired undefeated was Rocky, yes the same Rocky who's greatest wins are against 45year old dudes who had plently of losses in their last 10fights and a retired for many years and 38year old joe louisALL the greatest have lost, when I see a undefeated fighter RETIRE I immediately think either he's a ducker, or just didn't really want to challenge himself, LUCKY Floyd Mayweather came out of retirement because he would've been a joke, I give him respect for fighting SUGAR Shane Mosley.

Remember that Mayweather aint retired yet, Roy Jones had his first real loss in 2004, after 24 years as a fighter.