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  • #21
    http://www.b---------24.com/2010/02/...ght-for-andre/

    Abraham-Dirrell: Will this be an easy fight for Andre?
    February 17, 2010

    By Scott Gilfoid: In looking over the stage 2 Super Six fight between Andre Dirrell (18-1, 13 KO’s) and former IBF middleweight champion Arthur Abraham (31-1, 25 KO’s), I see it as one-sided a fight as you can imagine. Abraham, 29, is about as slow as Dirrell’s last opponent WBC super middleweight champion Carl Froch in terms of hand speed, but doesn’t have the height or reach that the 6’1” Froch had going for him against Dirrell. Not that it helped Froch any, because he rarely landed any clean punches in the fight other than when he was in close to Dirrell.

    Abraham, 5’10”, appears out of place amongst the much bigger Super Six contestants because of his limited height. You would think that Abraham’s speed would even the score and put him in the same class as the other fighters in the tourney, but Abraham has little hand speed going for him. Indeed, his punches, which I would describe as wide and ugly, are as slow as any I’ve seen.

    What makes Abraham’s punches even slower is that he makes the mistake of throwing wide shots every time he throws a shot. He also has a really nasty habit of hooking his elbows as he throws a shot like he’s hitting a bag with both his punch and the elbow. If you look at Abraham’s fight with Jermain Taylor on October 17th last year, Abraham hurt Taylor by first hitting him with the right hand and then following through with his elbow that slammed into the side of Taylor’s face, staggering him.

    It was a clever punch, although not exactly the fairest considering Abraham hurt Taylor with an elbow. It’s debatable whether the damage was done form the right hand or the elbow, but I’m inclined to see it as coming from the elbow because Taylor staggered immediately after getting hooked with it. Dirrell, 27, isn’t going to be standing directly in front of the slow-footed Abraham.

    He knows that for Abraham to have any chance in this fight, he has to have the much faster handed Dirrell right there for him to land his slower shots. Dirrell, on the other hand, will be tattooing Abraham with punches from a distance, putting together incredible combinations that will be hard to see with the naked eye. Abraham won’t know how to combat Dirrell’s blazing hand speed.

    This isn’t something you can exactly train for. If you have no hand speed and your feet are just as slow, it’s just not going to happen for Abraham. That’s like taking a simple fighter and then putting him in with a world class fighter and then expecting them to be competitive after having him train for eight week against a few hapless sparring partners.

    It doesn’t matter who they dig up for Abraham to spar with in training camp, it won’t give Abraham fast twitch nerve fiber for his arms, shoulders and legs. The dude moves and punches like he has a lot of dead nerve fibers if you ask me. He never was very quick to begin with, but in the few years, Abraham has started to look even slower.

    That’s bad news for Abraham, because speed is what he’s going to need most of all when he enters the ring against the talented Dirrell. I see this fight as Custer’s land stand for Abraham. Dirrell is going to encircle Abe, pick him off with arrow shots to the head, and then as he wears out in the later rounds, Dirrell will come in and lance the weary and shaken Abraham to the head with a powerful left hand to finish him off.

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    • #22
      I think even a injured Dirrell takes Abraham to school.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
        Get a life . You're just another pasty ass rotten tooth xenophobe.

        If Arthur couldn't knock out Lajuan Simon he won't be catching up to Dirrell.
        Arthur couldnt knock out a iron-chined Simon cuz he lost 20 pounds in a short period of time. 20 pounds...man...just to make the weight. he felt very weak.
        he improved and learn about this and started to lose weight earlier in training. the result was he beat a badass warrior in Oral dropping him 5 times in his next bout! 5 times till the TD come!!

        and whats about this pic in ur sig Abe lying in a hospital.
        u dont even know which fight it was about.

        he was ill and mentioned early and fair enuff for Marquez, who has got no problem. Marquez said himself, that this was just a advantge focusing for the fight.

        so dont discredit Athur and other posters
        Last edited by cleaner147; 02-23-2010, 09:58 AM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by cleaner147 View Post

          and whats about this pic in ur sig Abe lying in a hospital.
          u dont even know which fight it was about.

          he was ill and mentioned early and fair enuff for Marquez, who has got no problem. Marquez said himself, that this was just a advantge focusing for the fight.

          so dont discredit Athur and other posters
          Typical NSB poster who doesn't know what he is talking about tells me that I don't know what I am talking about.

          You just discredited yourself by being an idiot and saying he mentioned "early and fair enough".... early huh? like early in the morning on the day of the fight?

          Abraham pulled out on the morning of the fight, here is the article and story to prove it to you.

          http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxi...s=225&cs=32231

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
            Typical NSB poster who doesn't know what he is talking about tells me that I don't know what I am talking about.

            You just discredited yourself by being an idiot and saying he mentioned "early and fair enough".... early huh? like early in the morning on the day of the fight?

            Abraham pulled out on the morning of the fight, here is the article and story to prove it to you.

            http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxi...s=225&cs=32231
            o my goodness, so much hate in u, bud.
            u owned me. are u happy now. sorry i cant remember every single detail.

            Ur right on this. it was published on this date he was pulling out, but Marquez had no porblem with it. why do u have. this fight was long time ago.
            Gettin sick ONCE makes him the king of pulling out fights? I dont think so.
            Last edited by cleaner147; 02-23-2010, 10:28 AM.

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            • #26
              why do u ignore the first part of my post. to baised? he could not knock Simon out? so hes a loser, right?
              Last edited by cleaner147; 02-23-2010, 10:28 AM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Proof2K9 View Post
                I think even a injured Dirrell takes Abraham to school.
                An injured Dirrell gets knocked the fuck out.

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                • #28
                  most doctors can examine your back and say, "well it's not that bad, just do this and this and you'll be good in 3 weeks time"

                  it's not that hard to believe

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
                    ...Actually it's more like they gave Abraham, his brother and his scumbag entourage another 3 weeks to get deported for sexually assaulting women and beating up men. It's well known in German fights circles that AA surrounds himself with lowlife losers.
                    ...
                    Yeah right, b/c your such of an inside man...I guess you know **** about it...just reading yellows from overseas doesn't make you an expert on the scene there...

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
                      Get a life . You're just another pasty ass rotten tooth xenophobe.

                      If Arthur couldn't knock out Lajuan Simon he won't be catching up to Dirrell.

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