EASY proof that Pacquiao is full of ****
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First, let me start off by saying this whole nonsense about who is responsible for the fight not coming off is tired and old. I enjoy both fighters, but they both killed this fight....one maybe more than the other. Everybody is trying to blame everyone and their mother and the only thing that truly matters at this point is that Floyd and Manny aren't fighting each other right now, so move on.
Since no one is moving on, or ever will apparently, I must say that the real problem with the blood tests is cultural differences....yes, i said it....cultural differences. It is impossible to generalize all the different cultures within asia, as there are so many, but there are quite a few that believe that their blood is their lifeline...that to even lose a drop will weaken them. Im not sure if the Filipino culture believes this, but I am pretty sure that there are a lot of Thais that do. I had a few friends from college that were from Thailand and told me this awhile back....and when I heard about Manny not wanting to take the blood tests because it "weakened" him I immediately thought of what my old friends had told me, and that Manny uses a lot of Thai training techniques and could possibly share the same sentiment on losing blood. As more details about the failed negotiations have leaked, I truly feel that this is why Manny won't take the tests so close to the bout.
Most of the Manny haters on here when mentioned that losing blood weakens him go into a frenzy and start asking for medical proof and posting articles showing how losing a teaspoon of blood doesn't weaken you physically. You are right, it really shouldn't weaken you physically, but it can weaken you mentally if you believe it does. The mind controls the body, and in this case the mind killed a big fight. But who the hell is Mayweather to ask for random blood testing anyway?
Anyway, I digress.......all im trying to say, is that for the people who think Manny is on steroids because he won't take random blood tests within 3 weeks of the fight, you are looking for any excuse possible to mitigate his achievements. Don't be so ethnocentric, look outside your culture. It is not the only one.
Also, for the people who are going to say "He is a fighter, he is supposed to lose blood." Let me lay this on you......as a fighter you are supposed to break your nose, ribs, fingers, but what if you break your nose, ribs, or fingers while training or right before the fight? You probably aren't going to fight. (Mayweather/Marquez sound familiar?)
Im not trying to offend anyone nor is the tone of this post supposed to be negative. Im just hoping before people jump to conclusions to defamate someones character they will really take a look at the entire picture. Hopefully this will add a new perspective on the turmoil during negotiations.Comment
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The smartest statement ive read from this forum yet...First, let me start off by saying this whole nonsense about who is responsible for the fight not coming off is tired and old. I enjoy both fighters, but they both killed this fight....one maybe more than the other. Everybody is trying to blame everyone and their mother and the only thing that truly matters at this point is that Floyd and Manny aren't fighting each other right now, so move on.
Since no one is moving on, or ever will apparently, I must say that the real problem with the blood tests is cultural differences....yes, i said it....cultural differences. It is impossible to generalize all the different cultures within asia, as there are so many, but there are quite a few that believe that their blood is their lifeline...that to even lose a drop will weaken them. Im not sure if the Filipino culture believes this, but I am pretty sure that there are a lot of Thais that do. I had a few friends from college that were from Thailand and told me this awhile back....and when I heard about Manny not wanting to take the blood tests because it "weakened" him I immediately thought of what my old friends had told me, and that Manny uses a lot of Thai training techniques and could possibly share the same sentiment on losing blood. As more details about the failed negotiations have leaked, I truly feel that this is why Manny won't take the tests so close to the bout.
Most of the Manny haters on here when mentioned that losing blood weakens him go into a frenzy and start asking for medical proof and posting articles showing how losing a teaspoon of blood doesn't weaken you physically. You are right, it really shouldn't weaken you physically, but it can weaken you mentally if you believe it does. The mind controls the body, and in this case the mind killed a big fight. But who the hell is Mayweather to ask for random blood testing anyway?
Anyway, I digress.......all im trying to say, is that for the people who think Manny is on steroids because he won't take random blood tests within 3 weeks of the fight, you are looking for any excuse possible to mitigate his achievements. Don't be so ethnocentric, look outside your culture. It is not the only one.
Also, for the people who are going to say "He is a fighter, he is supposed to lose blood." Let me lay this on you......as a fighter you are supposed to break your nose, ribs, fingers, but what if you break your nose, ribs, or fingers while training or right before the fight? You probably aren't going to fight. (Mayweather/Marquez sound familiar?)
Im not trying to offend anyone nor is the tone of this post supposed to be negative. Im just hoping before people jump to conclusions to defamate someones character they will really take a look at the entire picture. Hopefully this will add a new perspective on the turmoil during negotiations.
Hopefully all the haters will quit posting up bs threads, but i doubt that will happen any time soon.Comment
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People with common sense understand how little sense the actions of Pacquiao and his camp have made, but *******s cannot accept such logic.All this over analyzation and dissection of the Floyd vs. Pacquiao negotiations seems to have missed a very simple point.
Manny Pacquiao has boxed since his early teens, been in MANY brutal, epic wars in which both he and his opponent take serious punishment, I assume he's also watched a few fights in which he hasn't been a contestant...and he expects us to believe that he doesn't want to fight because he feels weak after losing BLOOD?
How about the cut that Marquez had when he fought you the second time and IMO went on to BEAT you with?

How about the cut Valero had a couple weeks ago, spraying blood all over himself and continued to fight like a champ?

How about all the blood that was sliding out of Miguel Cotto's cheek when he fought Clottey?

How about David Haye going on to beat Giacobbe Fragomeni with this monster gash?

But princess Manny just can't fight after losing half a table spoon for a drug test a few DAYS before a fight. Sorry, but anyone who has spent any time watching has seen guys fight like animals with tons of blood loss. And we're supposed to believe this chump?
Sorry Pac-fans, your boy is EXPOSED!Comment
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This.... sums it all up and i hope *****s might see the light..Also, for the people who are going to say "He is a fighter, he is supposed to lose blood." Let me lay this on you......as a fighter you are supposed to break your nose, ribs, fingers, but what if you break your nose, ribs, or fingers while training or right before the fight? You probably aren't going to fight. (Mayweather/Marquez sound familiar?)Comment
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And you bothered to put all this ****** **** together just to prove your biased ****** point?All this over analyzation and dissection of the Floyd vs. Pacquiao negotiations seems to have missed a very simple point.
Manny Pacquiao has boxed since his early teens, been in MANY brutal, epic wars in which both he and his opponent take serious punishment, I assume he's also watched a few fights in which he hasn't been a contestant...and he expects us to believe that he doesn't want to fight because he feels weak after losing BLOOD?
How about the cut that Marquez had when he fought you the second time and IMO went on to BEAT you with?
How about the cut Valero had a couple weeks ago, spraying blood all over himself and continued to fight like a champ?
How about all the blood that was sliding out of Miguel Cotto's cheek when he fought Clottey?
How about David Haye going on to beat Giacobbe Fragomeni with this monster gash?
But princess Manny just can't fight after losing half a table spoon for a drug test a few DAYS before a fight. Sorry, but anyone who has spent any time watching has seen guys fight like animals with tons of blood loss. And we're supposed to believe this chump?
Sorry Pac-fans, your boy is EXPOSED!
If you ****** people are really thinking you should have gotten by now that Pac disagreeing in the last day of the negotiation was about avoiding the humiliation of submitting to Commissioner Fraud Mayducker Jr's ****** ridiculous ped testing ****. Pac was clearly pissed for having been accused of using that **** when he knows he's not.
How about me accusing you of being one of most ****** person on the face of the earth. How's that? Prove to me you're not. Take a damn IQ test, f**ng moron.
How about asking your ****** selves why all of a sudden Fraud Ducker Jr is demanding all these tests? Was it because he saw Pac put Hatton to sleep and beat Cotto to a pulp? Those Mayweather bums thought that Pac was not supposed to beat Cotto. Agreeing with these bums makes you a bum yourself.
So stop this ****** diversionary tactics ****** morons. Why is Fraud Ducker Jr demanding these tests all of a sudden? That's the real question. Most people are not that ******. Who are we kidding?Comment
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Tell me ***** why your coward gay queen asking for this Olympic blood test when the urine test NanotrapTM ESP Particles is much more better?Alright HORGE,
Tell me physiologically what the difference is? Losing blood before the fight would temporarily drain you of a MINOR, likely imperceptible amount of stamina which would return as the platelets restored themselves. Losing it DURING a fight would have an effect on you during competition.
If you can't tell the difference, I might suggest you go back to school.
If you can't tell the difference, I might suggest you go back to school.
Last edited by whirlwind; 02-22-2010, 09:14 PM.Comment
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To repeat:
Stop this ****** diversionary tactics, ****** *****rons. The real question is, "Why is Fraud Ducker Jr demanding these tests all of a sudden?"
Those bums Mayweather Sr's thought that Pac was not supposed to beat Cotto. He did. They can't take it. Why could they? He's just an Asian midget who could barely speak English. He's cheating. Not surprisingly, idiotic *****rons had to believe what those bums say.Comment
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yep, since most boxer aren't afraid of losing blood, we should all let some guys from that boxer's opponent's corner to beat them up til they bleed before they fight right?All this over analyzation and dissection of the Floyd vs. Pacquiao negotiations seems to have missed a very simple point.
Manny Pacquiao has boxed since his early teens, been in MANY brutal, epic wars in which both he and his opponent take serious punishment, I assume he's also watched a few fights in which he hasn't been a contestant...and he expects us to believe that he doesn't want to fight because he feels weak after losing BLOOD?
How about the cut that Marquez had when he fought you the second time and IMO went on to BEAT you with?

How about the cut Valero had a couple weeks ago, spraying blood all over himself and continued to fight like a champ?

How about all the blood that was sliding out of Miguel Cotto's cheek when he fought Clottey?

How about David Haye going on to beat Giacobbe Fragomeni with this monster gash?

But princess Manny just can't fight after losing half a table spoon for a drug test a few DAYS before a fight. Sorry, but anyone who has spent any time watching has seen guys fight like animals with tons of blood loss. And we're supposed to believe this chump?
Sorry Pac-fans, your boy is EXPOSED!Comment
on those cheaters, PRONTO!!!
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