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  • cleaner147
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    #41
    jes, I mean it this way: not disputed.
    and not the boxer who is undisputed champ with all belts.
    no one would say:"Oh, well the winner of this tournement is a joke", but hes the truth the real champ at SMW:

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    • steeluv
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      #42
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
      The ones i bolded are unlikely to happen. It's highly unlikely, but if it happens, then it happens, it would be very weird though.
      i would say the same but the Kessler Froch could be a toss up

      kessler dont look like the Kessler of old, I could see Froch having the power to KO Kessler

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      • crold1
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        #43
        Originally posted by DaChef
        I agree with ts in that,for me anyway, one of the belts not being kept in the tournament untill the final loses it part of it's legitimacy. I think it's very important that the tournament winner has as strong a claim to being the no1 at 168 as possible as this tourny needs to be as succsesfull as possible to give other promoters and networks the kick up the ass they need to put on more things like this in the future.
        If Bute doesn't lose in the interim, and could get one of the major Middles to step up and maybe win the other available belt, no one in Super Six is going to have a strong claim without him. I like the tournament on that ground. It's not an end but a possible step to something even bigger.

        Imagine the Canadians and Germans filling Madison Square for a showdown like Bute-Abraham. Wow.

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        • yeykax
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          #44
          I don't know about Direll beating AA or Froch beating Kessler or Green beating Ward it's all a fantasy!!!

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            #45
            Originally posted by cleaner147
            jes, I mean it this way: not disputed.
            and not the boxer who is undisputed champ with all belts.
            no one would say:"Oh, well the winner of this tournement is a joke", but hes the truth the real champ at SMW:
            That's right. No doubt that the winner has the strongest claim to the SMW throne regardless. Coming out on top with such a strong field of fighters is a huge achievement.

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            • crold1
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              #46
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              That's right. No doubt that the winner has the strongest claim to the SMW throne regardless. Coming out on top with such a strong field of fighters is a huge achievement.
              If anyone came out at 4-1 or 5-0, that's enough. Belts wouldn't really matter. Those belts are political instruments and economic markers; their status as achievements is highly variable.

              For God's sake, Kessler's WBA belt was won about six months after losing the WBA title to Calzaghe...while Calzaghe hadn't yet vacated. "Super" title or not, that's just funny.

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                #47
                Originally posted by crold1
                If anyone came out at 4-1 or 5-0, that's enough. Belts wouldn't really matter. Those belts are political instruments and economic markers; their status as achievements is highly variable.

                For God's sake, Kessler's WBA belt was won about six months after losing the WBA title to Calzaghe...while Calzaghe hadn't yet vacated. "Super" title or not, that's just funny.
                Absolutely. Especially the WBA is a joke. Imagine if Kessler came was knocked out of the tournament as I suggested. Then the WBA would have Sartison, who Kessler put in hospital, as their 'regular' champion and Kessler as the 'super' champion.

                What a joke.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by crold1
                  If Bute doesn't lose in the interim, and could get one of the major Middles to step up and maybe win the other available belt, no one in Super Six is going to have a strong claim without him. I like the tournament on that ground. It's not an end but a possible step to something even bigger.

                  Imagine the Canadians and Germans filling Madison Square for a showdown like Bute-Abraham. Wow.
                  hell yea mutha****a!



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                  • crold1
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SpinDoctor
                    hell yea mutha****a!



                    IF AA were to win the tournament, with his pop, he'd emerge as the sort of multi-national star the German market has yet to produce below Heavyweight in the recent surge. Combine that with the crowds Bute is already pulling and HBO exposure.

                    Cha-Ching$ on neutral U.S. turf.

                    That's just one example.

                    Bute has to stay though. If Pascal beats Dawson, I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to see Pascal-Bute at Olympic Stadium. They could fill the joint.

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                    • cleaner147
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                      #50
                      to this sub-topic: WBA
                      Ward is the WBA Super champ and Sartison won the regulare WBA belt, which was vacate.

                      I hope the UnisversumBP boxer Sartison will face the SES boxer Stieglitz (if he wins against EDDY Gutknecht, who beat Karoly Balzsay) for an unification bout.

                      this would be great

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