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  • shabs1
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    #81
    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
    So do you think a "pound" changes the outcome of the fight? Just curious as to what your answer to this will be.
    well pac fans crucify floyd for a pound but then again you cant forget the double standard for pac

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    • El Castigador
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      #82
      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
      So you are saying the Cotto wouldn't have gotten his @ss beat in a similar fashion? According to you 2lbs was the difference between Cotto cruising to a UD vs getting the **** beat outta him over 12 rounds.
      Fact is we'll never know. And are you seriously sitting there and acting like weight doesnt affect boxers.

      Lets see Calzaghe weigh in at 166.

      Or how about Clottey at 145.

      Or what about Valero at 133.

      What about Urango at 138.

      If the 2 POUNDS didnt make a difference WHY did Pac ask for it?

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      • El Castigador
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        #83
        Originally posted by S a m u r a i
        What about if you're already a billionaire in your own country? Once poor, now rich... and these days Pacquiao doesn't even need the money. You're seeing it from your point of view only. That's understandable, especially if you're a materialistic type of person who's life is ruled by bits of paper. You would happily put aside your pride, bend over and be ****ed up the backside by the likes of Mayweather, Golden Boy, etc. Me, personally I would never do that. Pacquiao has done the right thing in standing his ground.

        At the end of the day, one fact will not change: Floyd Mayweather is not the commission. He has no right to demand anything. Correct? Who is this guy... merely a fighter, right? He is not the NSAC.

        Pacquiao has ****** amounts of money. 40 million dollars probably isn't really that much of a big deal. Try and see it from his point of view.
        Yet he DEMANDED bigger splits vs. Hatton/ Cotto and made Clottey take a 90/10. Split.

        If you think Pac fights for free you are blind.

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        • -Boxzilla-
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          #84
          Originally posted by S a m u r a i
          What about if you're already a billionaire in your own country? Once poor, now rich... and these days Pacquiao doesn't even need the money. You're seeing it from your point of view only. That's understandable, especially if you're a materialistic type of person who's life is ruled by bits of paper. You would happily put aside your pride, bend over and be ****ed up the backside by the likes of Mayweather, Golden Boy, etc. Me, personally I would never do that. Pacquiao has done the right thing in standing his ground.

          At the end of the day, one fact will not change: Floyd Mayweather is not the commission. He has no right to demand anything. Correct? Who is this guy... merely a fighter, right? He is not the NSAC.

          Pacquiao has ****** amounts of money. 40 million dollars probably isn't really that much of a big deal. Try and see it from his point of view.
          i cant cause this doesnt only hurt his pockets ... its hurt his legacy, its made once unreasonable questions/accuasations very much plausable .... by his own actions

          sauerland stipulates olympic style random drug testing in their contract ... they already caught someone using a banned substance. why dont they get heat for acting like a commision ...
          Last edited by -Boxzilla-; 02-17-2010, 08:13 PM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by El Castigador
            Fact is we'll never know. And are you seriously sitting there and acting like weight doesnt affect boxers.

            Lets see Calzaghe weigh in at 166.

            Or how about Clottey at 145.

            Or what about Valero at 133.

            What about Urango at 138.

            If the 2 POUNDS didnt make a difference WHY did Pac ask for it?
            According to Shawn Porter, the catchweight was more of a mental thing than a physical one. Cotto made it very clear the weight did not affect him, in fact he said he felt great.

            Cotto was not drained.



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            • shabs1
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              #86
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              What about if you're already a billionaire in your own country? Once poor, now rich... and these days Pacquiao doesn't even need the money. You're seeing it from your point of view only. That's understandable, especially if you're a materialistic type of person who's life is ruled by bits of paper. You would happily put aside your pride, bend over and be ****ed up the backside by the likes of Mayweather, Golden Boy, etc. Me, personally I would never do that. Pacquiao has done the right thing in standing his ground.

              At the end of the day, one fact will not change: Floyd Mayweather is not the commission. He has no right to demand anything. Correct? Who is this guy... merely a fighter, right? He is not the NSAC.

              Pacquiao has ****** amounts of money. 40 million dollars probably isn't really that much of a big deal. Try and see it from his point of view.

              ok well look at from floyds point of view this guy is trying to tax me 10 mill a pound who the hell does this guy think he is i allready agreed to 50-50 now he wants to try to tax me 10 mill pound this guy outsold me once and i outsold on all commom opponents and now hes trying to make the rules who does he think he is try looking at it like that but floyd still accepted . and be real dont say he needs the money cause just like may said he can go on a world tour fighting bums and still make a **** load of money

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                #87
                Originally posted by El Castigador
                Fact is we'll never know. And are you seriously sitting there and acting like weight doesnt affect boxers.

                Lets see Calzaghe weigh in at 166.

                Or how about Clottey at 145.

                Or what about Valero at 133.

                What about Urango at 138.
                Or Mayweather at 144.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by El Castigador
                  Fact is we'll never know. And are you seriously sitting there and acting like weight doesnt affect boxers.

                  Lets see Calzaghe weigh in at 166.

                  Or how about Clottey at 145.

                  Or what about Valero at 133.

                  What about Urango at 138.

                  If the 2 POUNDS didnt make a difference WHY did Pac ask for it?
                  I actually want Pac to fight a bigger version of Cotto. That's why as soon as Cotto beats foreman, Arum can do a rematch at 154 for Manny's shot at a 8th title in as many classes. So actually me and you are on the same page.

                  Pac has to silence any doubts....so why not rematch Cotto to shut the haters up.

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                  • El Castigador
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                    According to Shawn Porter, the catchweight was more of a mental thing than a physical one. Cotto made it very clear the weight did not affect him, in fact he said he felt great.

                    Cotto was not drained.
                    Pac made it very clear that he wanted to handicap Cottos weight. Why? I mean if it didnt make a difference why ask for it? To get an advantage?

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                    • El Castigador
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                      I actually want Pac to fight a bigger version of Cotto. That's why as soon as Cotto beats foreman, Arum can do a rematch at 154 for Manny's shot at a 8th title in as many classes. So actually me and you are on the same page.

                      Pac has to silence any doubts....so why not rematch Cotto to shut the haters up.
                      Cotto is damaged goods. If Pac wants a belt at 154 fight Martinez, Williams or Dzindiruk.

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