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  • joospa
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    BTW Khan beats Valero easy - discuss

    Khan deals with Valero with ease and here's the reason.

    SPEED - not the drug, the attribute.

    A few people have been trying to make out like valero would KO khan, and maybe he would, IF he ever caught him flush (or anyone else for that matter). BUT!.... he would never ever catch Khan. I'm no superfan but styles make fights and Khan could slip Valero with both hands behind his back.

    Valeros problem:
    First the Jab - It's painfully slow, and just hangs out there like harpoon. Khan would throw 1 maybe even two quick left hooks. **** ****!

    Secondly the straight - His power shot, this requires a good jab to land on the best fighters... only a mug get hit with a straight without being set up properly.

    Those who know khan will know we haven't seen him attack properly for the last four fights (under roach) this is not roaches fault but if we look at the details:

    ***an - comback fight, you expect Khan to be cautious.
    Barrera - High risk, quite defensive fight needed breaking down with flurries
    Kotelnik - Ultra defensive - BTW there's a moment in the 5th round when Kotelnik throws first and gets caught with a peach. Khan slips the punch like it's bullet time. Kotelnik nevers tries it again.
    Salita - Over almost before it started.

    I think we are yet to see the improved (by roach) warrior style of fighting Khan became famous for.

    DISCLAIMER TIME.

    Yes I'm a fan but I'm realistic, Khan is not on the level of Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather,... but he is very capable of beating Valero, Maidana, Malinaggi, and other similar fighters.....

    let me know your thoughts.
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    #2
    Originally posted by joospa
    Khan deals with Valero with ease and here's the reason.

    SPEED - not the drug, the attribute.

    A few people have been trying to make out like valero would KO khan, and maybe he would, IF he ever caught him flush (or anyone else for that matter). BUT!.... he would never ever catch Khan. I'm no superfan but styles make fights and Khan could slip Valero with both hands behind his back.

    Valeros problem:
    First the Jab - It's painfully slow, and just hangs out there like harpoon. Khan would throw 1 maybe even two quick left hooks. **** ****!

    Secondly the straight - His power shot, this requires a good jab to land on the best fighters... only a mug get hit with a straight without being set up properly.

    Those who know khan will know we haven't seen him attack properly for the last four fights (under roach) this is not roaches fault but if we look at the details:

    ***an - comback fight, you expect Khan to be cautious.
    Barrera - High risk, quite defensive fight needed breaking down with flurries
    Kotelnik - Ultra defensive - BTW there's a moment in the 5th round when Kotelnik throws first and gets caught with a peach. Khan slips the punch like it's bullet time. Kotelnik nevers tries it again.
    Salita - Over almost before it started.

    I think we are yet to see the improved (by roach) warrior style of fighting Khan became famous for.

    DISCLAIMER TIME.

    Yes I'm a fan but I'm realistic, Khan is not on the level of Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather,... but he is very capable of beating Valero, Maidana, Malinaggi, and other similar fighters.....

    let me know your thoughts.
    let's see him beat maidana first

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    • Picazo
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      #3
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      let's see him beat maidana first
      He beats Maidana hands down, just wait and see...now Valero im not 100% sure about..that to me is a toss up. Valero may seem slow but ive also noticed hes deceptively quick. Especially when he senses his opponent is in danger.

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      • hammerhiem
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        #4
        one clean shot by valero and TIIIIMMMBAHHH!

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        • John Hue
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          #5
          Khan has speed, that is his main asset. He has a very good jab and reasonable pop. He does not have the greatest mind in the ring and what he does have going for him is not enough to take Valero out or keep him at bay. Despite Valero having low hands and open defense he is more of a predator and has a better boxing mind. I can see him stalking Khan down. I would expect Valero to win by KO after being outboxed.

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          • PensionKiller
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            #6
            I'm a Khan fan, quite a huge one supporting a fellow Brit, and I feel he has skills, but Valero has a lot of speed that people don't talk about and is accurate enough to get shots on Khan for sure.

            Khan may win if he is much better and stays on the back foot, but for now, Valero's power and hunger is too much.

            Valero needs to face some better names, but I feel has can prove himself.

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            • wazaa.
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              #7
              Originally posted by hammerhiem
              one clean shot by valero and TIIIIMMMBAHHH!
              tell me what "TIIIIMMMBAHHH" means so I can give you a good response.

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              • John Hue
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                #8
                Originally posted by wazaa.
                tell me what "TIIIIMMMBAHHH" means so I can give you a good response.
                Lumberjacks say "TIIIIMMMBAHHH" when they have cut down a tree and it is just about to fall.

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                • wazaa.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by John Hue
                  Lumberjacks say "TIIIIMMMBAHHH" when they have cut down a tree and it is just about to fall.
                  oh ok thanks John...**** YOU hammerhiem !!

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                  • -MAKAVELLI-
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                    #10
                    not sure about that...i imagine that at some point, one of Valero's bombs gets thru and that's when we might get a repeat of the Prescott fight

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