"*****s just wants to unhype Pac VS Clottey fight."

[HighFlyer]

Thats a dumb thing to say, when just about everyone is saying it. Most fans and writers.

now ur believing most fans and writers...so now ur convinced that Fraud Mayweather is a big disgrace in the sport of boxing??

No way! Let me ask you something what will he be hitting? pac IS the filapino flash. Pac will land the goods and be GONE! clotty will be landing on what? he's sooooooooooo flat footed.

Picture this clotty walking down pac for 5 rounds landing ****! pac will land and use his legs to get away! Clotty will try to start on offense..... buuuuuut he'll hit nothing!

round 6-7 the granite chin will be checked wobbled and his toughness will take him to round 9 and then clotts will be gone!

Pac isnt the filipino flash idiot...it was donaire lol
Ur a typically Floyd fan
Fraud Mayweather doesnt believe that a fighter can improve.

DUDE NO FANS! no fan here bro! look at the styles!!! styles make fights YOU know this I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS!

I GOT MAD LOVE FOR A GOOD FIGHT BRO TRUUUUUUUUST ME. I KNOW YOU DO TO are you sure based on what each fighter has done. look at the stats bro look at it. Your telling me CLOTTY IS gunna beast pac??? are you serious???!

*****s=Pachater
*****s & Pachaters bet Pacquiao to loose in his his previous fights
its so funny *****s choose Pacquiao to win now...someting smells fishy lol
still *****s and pachater just want to unhype Pac VS Clottey

Mosley is great but Shane VS Fraud on May 1 will be like a CAT AND MOUSE FIGHT. Sugar Shane cant chase Fraud in 12 rounds. Fight fans will be seeing again the Biggest fraud in boxing history DLH vs Gayweather where Oscar chase Floyd and pressing the fight while Duckweather threw only potshots.

hmmmm well her's the conundrum, i don't bet. floyd doesn't throw what many punches which i'm sure you know as well as I. He's more of an accurate pot shotter wouldn't you say. How's about this. We bet no points, I'll endorse you "out whited me" if you can pick the closer number to the amount of punches landed on Clotty before he starts to bake cookies... in other words when Manny koe's him. I'll bet around...150 punches.

You?

Fight fans believe Floyd also ducked Clottey
KFC spent 5 years in WW and yet he only fought Baldomir.

Joshua Clottey improves and will be inside that ring to "FIGHT"
Floyd Mayweather will be inside that ring to "RUN"..
end of the story

@R.Winky Wright
pls dont post nonsense post coz ur wasting forum space idiot!
*****s and Pachaters really got pissed off rofl

[Lucky Luciano]

This ***** and ******* bull**** is dumb!!!

[The Great Shark]

How can people unhype something that has no hype?

[shadeyfizzle]

hmmmm well her's the conundrum, i don't bet. floyd doesn't throw what many punches which i'm sure you know as well as I. He's more of an accurate pot shotter wouldn't you say. How's about this. We bet no points, I'll endorse you "out whited me" if you can pick the closer number to the amount of punches landed on Clotty before he starts to bake cookies... in other words when Manny koe's him. I'll bet around...150 punches.

You?

What in the world??? You go on a rant about how it wont be a competitive fight and it's a sham and a waste of money and boring because Clottey is not active enough and turtles up.

And I tell you I'm willing to wager that Clottey will end up throwing more punches losing than Mayweather will end up throwing winning.

But not only do you back out of it but try to change the subject??? Way to follow in floyd's footsteps kid.

[The_Sneaky]

No way! Let me ask you something what will he be hitting? pac IS the filapino flash. Pac will land the goods and be GONE! clotty will be landing on what? he's sooooooooooo flat footed.

Picture this clotty walking down pac for 5 rounds landing ****! pac will land and use his legs to get away! Clotty will try to start on offense..... buuuuuut he'll hit nothing!

round 6-7 the granite chin will be checked wobbled and his toughness will take him to round 9 and then clotts will be gone!

Are Marquez or Morrales as fast as Pac? What did they do to him? Is Clottey that much slower than Marquez or Morrales? Can you tell me what style attributes either Marquez or Morrales have that Clottey doesn't match up to or is better than.

Reach? Size? Handspeed? Power? Combinations? Punch output? Right hand? Countering? Timing? Defense? Ching? Durability? Footwork(not footspeed)? Accuracy? Jabbing? Uppercuts? Hooks?

I do give Pac the advantage in this fight but not by much. Clottey was able to hang with, time and ultimately break down a fast-footed, quick and powerful handed, slick-defense, highly-motivated southpaw Judah so I don't put it past him to do same to Pac.

Please watch Clottey's and Pac's last 6 fights before you make statements about their styles in comparison. Clottey: Cotto, Judah, Cruz, Alvarez, Flores, Corrales; Pacquiao: Cotto, Hatton, de la Hoya, Diaz, Marquez, Barrera. If you do, you'll realise that this fight is more like Pac-Marquez, Pac-Moralles I than Pac-de la Hoya, Pac-Cotto.

Then and again most people who underestimate Clottey won't bother with this indepth analysis of him or his chnaces against Pac and will rely on the popularist media and subjective fight highlights so there's no hope of convincing them.

[R.Winky Wright]

What in the world??? You go on a rant about how it wont be a competitive fight and it's a sham and a waste of money and boring because Clottey is not active enough and turtles up.

And I tell you I'm willing to wager that Clottey will end up throwing more punches losing than Mayweather will end up throwing winning.

But not only do you back out of it but try to change the subject??? Way to follow in floyd's footsteps kid.

duuuuuuuuude hold up NEVER IN MY POST DID I SAY IT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY! NEVER. I COULD CARE LESS I"M JUST LOKING AT THE MATCH ITself. now if your done flattering yourself. I have never bet on this site mmmm k. I don't care for it I see what people write and respond, because i have life to do.

What point did i change the topic I never mentioned floyd initially you did. If i knew we where going to get into a war of pointing the finger i would have passed bro.

you know what it doesn't really matter, i'll bet you sure. but also know that i know your going to win! why bet I guess why not.

on a side note:

no hate on any fighter to get in the squared ring i have mad respect EXCEPT if their cheaters!

[R.Winky Wright]

Are Marquez or Morrales as fast as Pac? What did they do to him? Is Clottey that much slower than Marquez or Morrales? Can you tell me what style attributes either Marquez or Morrales have that Clottey doesn't match up to or is better than.

Reach? Size? Handspeed? Power? Combinations? Punch output? Right hand? Countering? Timing? Defense? Ching? Durability? Footwork(not footspeed)? Accuracy? Jabbing? Uppercuts? Hooks?

I do give Pac the advantage in this fight but not by much. Clottey was able to hang with, time and ultimately break down a fast-footed, quick and powerful handed, slick-defense, highly-motivated southpaw Judah so I don't put it past him to do same to Pac.

Please watch Clottey's and Pac's last 6 fights before you make statements about their styles in comparison. Clottey: Cotto, Judah, Cruz, Alvarez, Flores, Corrales; Pacquiao: Cotto, Hatton, de la Hoya, Diaz, Marquez, Barrera. If you do, you'll realise that this fight is more like Pac-Marquez, Pac-Moralles I than Pac-de la Hoya, Pac-Cotto.

Then and again most people who underestimate Clottey won't bother with this indepth analysis of him or his chnaces against Pac and will rely on the popularist media and subjective fight highlights so there's no hope of convincing them.

dude if you want me to start looking at other fighters and compairing them i already have!!!! ARE you saying that marquez and moralas are better boxers than clotty? if you are i would agree anything of the contrary is absurd!

JUDAH = PAC that's what your saying?!?! or close to him?!?!? really cause if that was even a remote case he wouldn't be on the fringe right now. look at the styles, **** the media, **** the PPV i don't care about any of it! styles, clotty is flat footed throws a good upper cut that leaves him open if timed properly! can pac do that yer damn certain! look at pac work rate for 12 rounds look ta clottys. your telling me some how pac will get old over night? if that what your saying!?!?! your telling me clotty is comparable to guys who can BOX. Is clotty a BOXER of more of a brawler, is he renound for his combination punching or that he loses close fights to non super elite fighters!?!?! what happened agaist cotto... it was close i give you that but what was his punch output while he had cotto backing up!?!? in what rounds cotto has no where near the offensive output! are you telling me he blends his defense into offense by counter punching or slipping shots on his way in? becasue if he did i would give him a chance, but he doesn't.

HE's a big strong guy with a limited arsinal a limited way to apply pressure against a guy who has been fighting carbon copies of this style of fighter all the way threw.

as for watching that matches I've been watching the unspectacular clotty since margarito so please spare me. I can agree to disagree. all i ask you if you had to bet yor next breath would it be on clotty in spectacular fashion, becasue that's what it will take to beat pac at this moment in his career!

[R.Winky Wright]

now ur believing most fans and writers...so now ur convinced that Fraud Mayweather is a big disgrace in the sport of boxing??

Pac isnt the filipino flash idiot...it was donaire lol
Ur a typically Floyd fan
Fraud Mayweather doesnt believe that a fighter can improve.

*****s=Pachater
*****s & Pachaters bet Pacquiao to loose in his his previous fights
its so funny *****s choose Pacquiao to win now...someting smells fishy lol
still *****s and pachater just want to unhype Pac VS Clottey

Mosley is great but Shane VS Fraud on May 1 will be like a CAT AND MOUSE FIGHT. Sugar Shane cant chase Fraud in 12 rounds. Fight fans will be seeing again the Biggest fraud in boxing history DLH vs Gayweather where Oscar chase Floyd and pressing the fight while Duckweather threw only potshots.






Fight fans believe Floyd also ducked Clottey
KFC spent 5 years in WW and yet he only fought Baldomir.

Joshua Clottey improves and will be inside that ring to "FIGHT"
Floyd Mayweather will be inside that ring to "RUN"..
end of the story

@R.Winky Wright
pls dont post nonsense post coz ur wasting forum space idiot!
*****s and Pachaters really got pissed off rofl

...ah yes, of course I'm an idiot because I choose not to argue with one.

[STREET CLEANER]

There is nothing to unhype, who ever is gonna buy either fight will regardless who says what. Don't remember anybody telling somebody else don't buy it and they didn't. This comment is like spinning it the other way around, so is more like the same shiiit comming from the other side.

Instead of ppl being happy that atleast we got two competitive fights they are mud slingging. From all the other prospects that were announced for either fighter I'm more sastisfied with the given opponents. In the end the match of the decade to do is Pac/Floyd, everything else will fall short on expectations

[The_Sneaky]

dude if you want me to start looking at other fighters and compairing them i already have!!!! ARE you saying that marquez and moralas are better boxers than clotty? if you are i would agree anything of the contrary is absurd!

JUDAH = PAC that's what your saying?!?! or close to him?!?!? really cause if that was even a remote case he wouldn't be on the fringe right now. look at the styles, **** the media, **** the PPV i don't care about any of it! styles, clotty is flat footed throws a good upper cut that leaves him open if timed properly! can pac do that yer damn certain! look at pac work rate for 12 rounds look ta clottys. your telling me some how pac will get old over night? if that what your saying!?!?! your telling me clotty is comparable to guys who can BOX. Is clotty a BOXER of more of a brawler, is he renound for his combination punching or that he loses close fights to non super elite fighters!?!?! what happened agaist cotto... it was close i give you that but what was his punch output while he had cotto backing up!?!? in what rounds cotto has no where near the offensive output! are you telling me he blends his defense into offense by counter punching or slipping shots on his way in? becasue if he did i would give him a chance, but he doesn't.

HE's a big strong guy with a limited arsinal a limited way to apply pressure against a guy who has been fighting carbon copies of this style of fighter all the way threw.

as for watching that matches I've been watching the unspectacular clotty since margarito so please spare me. I can agree to disagree. all i ask you if you had to bet yor next breath would it be on clotty in spectacular fashion, becasue that's what it will take to beat pac at this moment in his career!

JUDAH
The issue with Judah is not his skills, it is his desire, will and discipline. That is why he is a fringe contender now. Even then he was extremely focused and prepared for Clottey and still lost convincingly.

STYLES
Pac doesn't need to get old overnight. His style will still not penetrate Clottey's guard with all the speed or angles in the world. Clottey does not brawl. He can fight good on the inside but he doesn't take punishment to give punishment. He looks for openings and exploits, he times and counters. He practices hit without being hit.

ARSENAL
In his arsenal are fast combinations, accurate punches, tight defense, good footwork, stiff jabs, powerful uppercuts, effective straight rights, decent power, triple, quadruple left hooks, good timing and countering and relatively quick hands. If that's limited then I don't know who's not a limited fighter. Marquez, Morrales had less than he did and still gave Pac troubles. Not every fighter has to have extremely fast hands or feet or extreme power or be able to slip punches to be elite. Can you tell me whether JCC, Hagler, Duran, JMM had these attributes in extreme? Clottey is not great in anything but he's very good in all. He is a technically sound boxer.

LOSES
The guy has lost three times. Three. All the loses are disputed.
Against Baldomir: Former lineal champ; he was way ahead of Baldomir before the DQ
Against Margarito: He was handily thrashing Margarito before the hand injuries, without fighting off his pace or gameplan. The first four round were not even close. He still managed to end the fight and even win some rounds even though he was in pain when he punched or blocked.
Against Cotto: He outlanded Cotto by round and in total. His punches were the more effective and cause more damage. He was however fighting in his opponents backyard and his own promoter was already hyping Pac-Cotto.

FIGHT HISTORY
Did you watch the unspectacular Clottey against Corrales, Flores, Alvarez, Cruz, Judah? He handily trashed all these opponents and those are his fights after Margarito and before Cotto. Infact he is the only man to have to stopped Jose Luis Cruz(the very same that went 12 close rounds with Mosley), pitched a virtual shutout against Flores, the very first man to defeat Alvarez and dominated and was on the verge of stopping Judah before he quit on a 'phantom headbutt'.

COTTO
I give you that he should have done more in the last two rounds to make the decision beyond doubt but he did do enough to win if the judging were fair. He outlanded Cotto in total and by rounds. And he was landing the more effective punches.

CONCLUSION
Agree to disagree.