You guys are really undersestimating Clottey.

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  • mellow_mood
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    #71
    Originally posted by AssasinKing
    Who is on mannys level?
    canseco, mgwire, m. jones, toney, a-rod, delgado, alomar, and the list can go on and on and on and on

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    • rocky_balboa23
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      #72
      Originally posted by swizz
      oh and by the way he fought 9 rds with one eye...due to a headbutt when most fighters would of pack it in
      excuses..you even made an excuse of him losing to Marg and Pac. It was accidental headbutt that opened Cotto's cut. How about Cotto throwing low blows on Judah and Mosley, Body slamming Clottey. and how about Clottey fighting Margarito with one hand damaged? Cotto will never be good again sorry to say that. He'll be outboxed by Foreman

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      • El 7 Mares V.2
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        #73
        Originally posted by street bully
        He will lose. But he will put up better ights than Pacquiaos past few opponents, who were thoroughly dominated.
        I think he will get desperate from the blazing speed and punch output from Manny and he will resort to his dirty ol' tactics and using that big ol' head of his.

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        • The_Sneaky
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          #74
          Originally posted by savorduhflavor
          Nah. It will be a repeat of the Cotto/Pac fight. Except maybe he won't get stopped.

          Competitive in the beginning and than Pac will begin to open up and Clottey won't come out of his shell. Not to mention, he's probably more mentally weak than Cotto.

          Clottey has little to no chance. By the late rounds he will be freaking exhausted and be taking a beating while offering little firepower back. It will be al ate stoppage or a wide UD...a la Cotto fight. And what he does land won't have the effect Cotto's punches did.
          Mentally weak? The man fought 7 close rounds against a compubox record punches Margarito with injured hands.

          Have you ever seen Clottey take a beating against any opponent before? Clottey is hardly ever in retreat. Even against Margarito with injured hands he fought Margarito tough and close.

          As to damage. Just watch the faces of Clottey's last 6 opponents after their fights with him. Infact add Margarito. He is not a high volume puncher, but that's because he want to hits you cleanly and effectively and his punches even though not explosive are very crisp and cause significant damage.

          Clottey has a much bigger chance than Marquez had in Pac-Marquez II because he has all the tools that Marquez had(straight right, countering, timing, accuracy, power, chin, footwork against southpaws) and better in most cases and has other tools Marquez didn't even have. Like what? His tight defense, size, reach and brilliant combinations.

          If in doubt just watch Judah-Clottey, Margarito-Clottey, Clottey-Corrales and Cotto-Clottey.

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          • The_Sneaky
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            #75
            Please remember.

            Pac has never fought anyone like Clottey before, a huge, strong, tight defense, right handed aggressive counterpuncher.

            Clottey has fought fast, powerful, slick southpaws with quick feet before.

            Clottey has few weaknesses in his style for Pac to exploit. If you think low volume, accurate punching is a weakeness then you can say that but it's not.

            Don't wonder whether Clottey can handle Pac, he's proved beyond all reasobable doubt he can handle the skillset Pac brings.

            The question should be whether Pac can find a way around Clottey's guard that no one with speed, power, volume, southpaw stance has been able to do to date.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #76
              Originally posted by The_Sneaky
              Please remember.

              Pac has never fought anyone like Clottey before, a huge, strong, tight defense, right handed aggressive counterpuncher.

              Clottey has fought fast, powerful, slick southpaws with quick feet before.

              Clottey has few weaknesses in his style for Pac to exploit. If you think low volume, accurate punching is a weakeness then you can say that but it's not.

              Don't wonder whether Clottey can handle Pac, he's proved beyond all reasobable doubt he can handle the skillset Pac brings.

              The question should be whether Pac can find a way around Clottey's guard that no one with speed, power, volume, southpaw stance has been able to do to date.
              Sheesh, with all these skills you'd think Clottey was one of the best of his generation or something.

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #77
                I tend to find that people rate Clottey highly, I try to keep it real on him. He is alright he has good skill but has proven on three occasions to not rise to the occasion for a big win, and he tends to not be aggressive really pressing home any advantages he gets.

                To me that is a great opponent because he will look good but find a way to fall short and not really take advantage on what he can actually do.

                I don't have any issue witht the fight though Clottey is a highly rated guy and if he fights an inspired fight he can certainly make it interesting. I have just seen to much of Clottey to really expect that kind of effort.

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                • The_Sneaky
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Sheesh, with all these skills you'd think Clottey was one of the best of his generation or something.
                  With a better promotion, team, he will have been more popular and one of the best. As is, he is very very good. Elite but not one of the very best like Pac or Mayweather.

                  Pac has to be on top of his game, this is not Hatton, Cotto, Diaz or de la Hoya. He's never been knocked out, dominated, or even cut before. He is right handed and has a good defense with good timing and countering skills. This is a solid fighter trying to make a name for himself. Pac better not slip on this banana peel.

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                  • Blue Heffner
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                    #79
                    This is mainly an argument that Clottey would put up a better fight than previous opponents. He's only going to be in the fight the first 3-6 rounds, and I'm being nice. After that, Pac is going to blow his ass out. Clottey is a good fighter but not on Pac's level. This will not be a competitive fight.

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                    • street bully
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by mellow_mood
                      canseco, mgwire, m. jones, toney, a-rod, delgado, alomar, and the list can go on and on and on and on
                      Add Tito Trinidad to that list.

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