You guys are really undersestimating Clottey.

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  • The_Sneaky
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    #191
    Originally posted by 120
    Clottey has no chance whatsoever. He has no movement. All he does is just stand there and get hit, which is PERFECT for PAC. This will be done by 9-10 by TKO, maybe even 8
    Really? What does he need movement for? To get away from punches? To setup punches? His guard block punches extremely effectively and his footwork puts him in offensive and defensive position effectively and efficiently.

    He doesn't just stand there and get hit. He pressures you with his guard up all the time, he blocks and then lays the punishment on you.

    He hasn't been hurt, rocked, knocked out or cut in any fight and he's fought every type of fighter.

    Why do you think he will knock out Clottey when he couldn't knock out Marquez? Because Clottey is more durable, has a better chin and a much better defense than Marquez.

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    • Rolling Stone
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      #192
      If Clottey wins it will be a bigger upset than Tyson douglas

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      • The_Sneaky
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        #193
        Originally posted by Rolling Stone
        If Clottey wins it will be a bigger upset than Tyson douglas
        In terms of public perception, yes it will as big or bigger an upset. That is because of the media hype around Manny. In terms of boxing ability and records not that much.

        Remember, Douglas had been knocked out and completely beaten before and Tyson had handled fighters with Douglas' style before.

        Clottey has never been knocked out before, has never been convincingly beaten or taken much punishment in any fight.

        Pac hasn't faced a fighter with Clottey's tight defense before either.

        Besides, Tyson was undefeated in 43 fights and was the undisputed heavyweight champion, Douglas wasn't even a top 10 contender if I remember correctly.

        Pac has lost three times and has been in close fights. Clottey is a 5 top-rated welterweight who has held his own against top-rated welterweights.
        Last edited by The_Sneaky; 02-18-2010, 08:12 AM.

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        • fdotorres
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          #194
          Originally posted by Rolling Stone
          If Clottey wins it will be a bigger upset than Tyson douglas
          yes, because clottey isn't a top 5 WW and pacquiao is undefeated and has campaigned at WW his whole career

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          • fdotorres
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            #195
            Originally posted by The_Sneaky
            Really? What does he need movement for? To get away from punches? To setup punches? His guard block punches extremely effectively and his footwork puts him in offensive and defensive position effectively and efficiently.

            He doesn't just stand there and get hit. He pressures you with his guard up all the time, he blocks and then lays the punishment on you.

            He hasn't been hurt, rocked, knocked out or cut in any fight and he's fought every type of fighter.

            Why do you think he will knock out Clottey when he couldn't knock out Marquez? Because Clottey is more durable, has a better chin and a much better defense than Marquez.
            why couldn't he chase cotto in last rounds?

            if he needs to chase pacquiao to win, he'll lose every single round. that's why he needs movement

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            • JoeyNumbers
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              #196
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Clottey is a pretty solid opponent for Manny's first defense of his welterweight title
              Clottey is a BEAST! Pac is a BEAST! This is gonna be one hell of a boxing fight!

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              • K-Nan
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                #197
                Clottey is no damn joke... I agree.

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                • S.G.
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                  #198
                  I don't feel Clottey is a soft touch, I just don't think he can pose many problems to Pacquiao.

                  Will be watching and hoping for an impressive performance from Manny though.

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                  • The_Sneaky
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by fdotorres
                    why couldn't he chase cotto in last rounds?

                    if he needs to chase pacquiao to win, he'll lose every single round. that's why he needs movement
                    Yo have a point and that is Pac's main advantage but that negates a lot of his offensive advantages. You can't plant your feet when you are on your bike and you can't come forward much either.

                    Clottey did do that effectively against Judah early on in their fight. I believe his stamina let him down when Cotto started to get on his bike late on in their fight. He was chasing but he wasn't effective with it.

                    If it's at the beginning I believe he will have broken Cotto down because his strategy will have been different, Coto go on his bike initially just to survive but since Clottey didn't press as hard as expected Cotto was able to look good.

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                    • jazluvr
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                      #200
                      Street is a closet Cotto hater...lol. He started off the thread with his usual underlying "dig" at Cotto. He a few of these here in NSB. He really, really hates Cotto cuz he beat Clottey, and he did it with 1 eye! How embarresing!

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