While Pac fights another drained zombie

[El Castigador]

Then he is damn good to have never really been beaten up in any fights even by world class fighters....but if he is then its his responsibility to move up not Pac's to not fight a guy who he has a pre-existing contractual obligation with before Clottey made what claim he did.

Why are you over looking the likelihood that Clottey will out weigh Pac by a considerable margin in the actual fight?

Why do you think he runs out of gas so fast? And stops throwing punches? And never does enough to win? He drains himself to make weight. He literally just said that like 3 days ago and BPP posted the article.

Clottey out weighs almost everyone he fights and he STILL loses. Against the P4P Number 1 it wont be any different.

[El Castigador]

You can't read. One more time kid: We base this argument one the 1 big win each man has. Clottey beat Zab for a belt. Baldomir beat Zab for a belt, it just happened to be a lineal belt. That doesn't change who they won it from. In both losses, Zab did ok early but was outgunned after half of the rounds. Clottey rightfully should have won by TKO, not TD. Baldomir has lost and drawn way more times than Clottey. Clottey beat the tar outta Baldomir and lost by DQ. Clottey is a better skilled fighter. Clottey>Baldomir. You lose.

Baldmir was Ranked the Number 1 WW by the Ring and the WBC.

He was the LINEAL WBC WW Champion of the World.

Clottey known for being a loser.

[Spray_resistant]

Why do you think he runs out of gas so fast? And stops throwing punches? And never does enough to win? He drains himself to make weight. He literally just said that like 3 days ago and BPP posted the article.

Clottey out weighs almost everyone he fights and he STILL loses. Against the P4P Number 1 it wont be any different.

Winning 35 out of 38 sounds good to me.

His losses were not even a product of him gassing really, 1 was a DQ, one was a hand injury, and with Cotto it was a close fight where he just didn't do enough in key rounds but didn't look too gased to me.

[El Castigador]

Jan Zaveck? Oh you mean the guy you made a special thread just so you could **** on him?

Clottey has had several entertaining, competitive fights against world class competition. Has never been knocked out, or even close. Will outweigh Pac by about 12 pounds in the ring, is not easy to hit and has a solid chin.

So chill already. Who was Floyd going to fight before Berto pulled out? Matthew fricken Hatton?

Yes Jan Zaveck one of the worst fighters Ive seen. He has a WW belt too.

I dont give a **** how many entertaining fights hes had. Augustus has had many entertaining fights. Doesnt make you a great fighter by any stretch of the imagination.

Clottey outweighs everyone he faces and still loses.How is being heavier going to help him? Hes feather fisted and hasnt stopped anybody in 5 years. He doesnt throw punches. He doesnt move his head. He doesnt cut off the ring. He doesnt have good foot movement. Hes not that good at all.

Again...you are bringing up Floyd. Why?

[El Castigador]

Winning 35 out of 38 sounds good to me.

His losses were not even a product of him gassing really, 1 was a DQ, one was a hand injury, and with Cotto it was a close fight where he just didn't do enough in key rounds but didn't look too gased to me.

Clottey was tired against Cotto, Judah and Margarito. HE said that himself that he doesnt have great the greatest conditioning.

When he steps in the ring in his biggest fights he loses them.

[DLT]

yo, was there any GYFS show tonight?

[MurderDeathKill]

Baldmir was Ranked the Number 1 WW by the Ring and the WBC.

He was the LINEAL WBC WW Champion of the World.

Clottey known for being a loser.

Without a string of big wins to his credit, a fighter is known simply by his lone biggest win if he has one. Clottey and Baldomir are both known for beating Zab Judah. Baldomir having won the lineal crown doesn't mean he's a quality fighter. It just means he was better than the guy who had the lineal title the night that they fought. Anyone with 2 eyes can see Clottey is better than Baldomir. Once again, stop going out of your way to complain about ****** ****. The basis of your argument here is Baldomir>Clottey and that is simply wrong.

[El Castigador]

Without a string of big wins to his credit, a fighter is known simply by his lone biggest win if he has one. Clottey and Baldomir are both known for beating Zab Judah. Baldomir having won the lineal crown doesn't mean he's a quality fighter. It just means he was better than the guy who had the lineal title the night that they fought. Anyone with 2 eyes can see Clottey is better than Baldomir. Once again, stop going out of your way to complain about ****** ****. The basis of your argument here is Baldomir>Clottey and that is simply wrong.

Facts are facts. Clottey beat Judah AFTER Floyd, Baldimir and Cotto did.

Clottey lost every big fight. Hes a loser with a funny personality.

Baldimir was the WBC Lineal WW Champion of the World. Something Clottey could only hope to achieve.

You say Clotteys best win is Judah. But you didnt mention that Baldmir beat Judah 2 years before Clottey did. Also Judah lost to Floyd and then took a year off then lost to Cotto.

[El Castigador]

yo, was there any GYFS show tonight?

Naw I dont know what happened to lefty.

[Spray_resistant]

Clottey was tired against Cotto, Judah and Margarito. HE said that himself that he doesnt have great the greatest conditioning.

When he steps in the ring in his biggest fights he loses them.

So does Cotto and Margarito no longer deserve credit for their wins because he claims to be weight drained at 147?

If that is your opinion fine, but if not then Pac would also deserve full credit for the win should it happen too.