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Hey Dougie,
Hope you and the family are doing well as always. Do you think anyone bought the Donaire-Vargas PPV? Seriously, I guess they do make money off these shows?
I don't know why Showtime hasn't showcased Donaire since he fought Darchinyan? Shobox would work if the main network did not. I would favor Donaire in a rematch with Darchinyan if they fought at 118. Do you agree? Do you think Montiel is Donaire's next fight? Pretty clueless because I didn't buy the PPV.
Also I gotta ask if you think Joshua Clottey can get the better of Pacman if he uses his jab and lets his hands go? I think Clottey has underrated hand speed.
(P.S. Happy they let your son's fight to be left on Youtube. I also agree with your take regarding Mayweather vs. Mosley.) Peace, Adam L.A. -- Adam
Of course, you agree with my take on Mosley-Mayweather (note how I put the champ’s name first). You know your boxing, Adam! LOL. Ah, Youtube, the official network of Edwin Valero.
I agree that Clottey has underrated hand speed. Do I think he can get the better of Pacquiao if he uses his jab and lets his hands go? Absolutely! Now ask me if I think the Ghanaian will actually let his hands go.
Why hasn’t Showtime showcased Donaire since he fought Darchinyan? Good question. But first let me clarify that Darchinyan was not Donaire’s last Showtime appearance. His first defense of the IBF flyweight belt (vs. Luis Maldonado) in December of 2007 was. But anyway, that was back when Donaire was still with Gary Shaw.
My guess is that a major factor in Donaire not being on Showtime is that he left the Shaw-riff for Bob Arum’s Top Rank stable and Senor Arum-ageddon is not the easiest promoter in the world for network executives to deal with. (Fans and the media aren’t the only people Arum enjoys telling to go f___ themselves.) Seriously, I think it’s the way Arum has chosen to “promote” Donaire that has kept the junior bantie off Showtime and other U.S. networks. The only attractive opponent Donaire has been in with since he left Shaw was Raul Martinez (a Mexican-American prospect/fringe contender who was 24-0 at the time and had been featured on a few Telefutura broadcasts). However, Arum wanted that flyweight title defense to take place in Manila. Why? I have no idea. I know Donaire was born in the Philippines, but come on, the kid’s an American! He grew up in San Leandro, Calif. He lives in San Francisco. He should be fighting in San Jose, Calif., and the Bay Area, and those fights should be on a U.S. network (if not Showtime or HBO, then basic cable, such as Fox Sports Net). He shouldn’t be fighting in the Philippines and he shouldn’t be hidden away on “Pinoy Power” pay-per-view shows that are geared to just one or two ethnic groups among hardcore fans. Donaire ain’t Rey “Boom Boom” Bautista! He speaks perfect English for Christ’s sake! He’s intelligent and charismatic. Arum needs to let a broad American fight fan audience see him, because the young man has the talent, style and flair to be a star, and not just in the Filipino community.
Does Arum make money on his small pay-per-view shows? I know he’s made some decent change with the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.- and Jorge Arce-headlined “Latin Fury” shows, but I think he just breaks even with the “Pinoy Power” cards (with the foreign TV license fees and sponsorship). God knows he didn’t get much from the gate of Saturday’s show. That ballroom looked empty. And I doubt the PPV did well. Your email is the ONLY email I’ve received on the card (as of 2 p.m. PT on Sunday). That should tell you something. But who knows? Maybe a bunch of hardcore heads purchased the show and simply had nothing to say about it. The program was basically two mismatches (the Donaire and Montiel “fights”), one robbery (Morel-Penalosa) and one decent scrap (Concepcion-Santiago).
Maybe if Golden Boy Promotions had put on this show I would have received more feedback. You know, the usual stuff like “How could Oscar De La Hoya charge $40 for this crap?”, “Mismatches like those are the reason boxing is suffering!” and “Shame on Golden Boy for those terrible scorecards in the Morel-Penalosa fight!”
And then they would all end their emails with this little gem: “I don’t expect you to put this email in your mailbag because you work for Golden Boy and your boss, Oscar, won’t let you criticize them. Why don‘t you just admit that you‘re biased!?”
Of course, I have to wonder why so many fans (and some boxing writers) are “biased” when it comes to Arum’s cards. An Arum-promoted fighter (Morel) got what I thought was a blatant gift against a Golden Boy Promotions fighter (Penalosa) on a Top Rank show and nobody says a damn thing.
Arum serves a big dominant fighter like Donaire a midget and it’s OK. Montiel (a talented veteran with more than 40 pro bouts under his belt) fights a bona fide prospect (a kid with 14 fights), who gets destroyed in one round and no one says anything. Can you imagine the backlash if Golden Boy promotions put a young prospect like Luis Ramos in with Michael Katsidis or Juan Manuel Marquez? I can because I’ve got hear from those message board whack jobs on a regular basis.
Sorry to rant, Adam. I know you’re not one of those whack jobs but I was a little bit surprised there wasn’t more outrage about the mismatches and poor decisions on Saturday’s small PPV card.
Hey Dougie,
Hope you and the family are doing well as always. Do you think anyone bought the Donaire-Vargas PPV? Seriously, I guess they do make money off these shows?
I don't know why Showtime hasn't showcased Donaire since he fought Darchinyan? Shobox would work if the main network did not. I would favor Donaire in a rematch with Darchinyan if they fought at 118. Do you agree? Do you think Montiel is Donaire's next fight? Pretty clueless because I didn't buy the PPV.
Also I gotta ask if you think Joshua Clottey can get the better of Pacman if he uses his jab and lets his hands go? I think Clottey has underrated hand speed.
(P.S. Happy they let your son's fight to be left on Youtube. I also agree with your take regarding Mayweather vs. Mosley.) Peace, Adam L.A. -- Adam
Of course, you agree with my take on Mosley-Mayweather (note how I put the champ’s name first). You know your boxing, Adam! LOL. Ah, Youtube, the official network of Edwin Valero.
I agree that Clottey has underrated hand speed. Do I think he can get the better of Pacquiao if he uses his jab and lets his hands go? Absolutely! Now ask me if I think the Ghanaian will actually let his hands go.
Why hasn’t Showtime showcased Donaire since he fought Darchinyan? Good question. But first let me clarify that Darchinyan was not Donaire’s last Showtime appearance. His first defense of the IBF flyweight belt (vs. Luis Maldonado) in December of 2007 was. But anyway, that was back when Donaire was still with Gary Shaw.
My guess is that a major factor in Donaire not being on Showtime is that he left the Shaw-riff for Bob Arum’s Top Rank stable and Senor Arum-ageddon is not the easiest promoter in the world for network executives to deal with. (Fans and the media aren’t the only people Arum enjoys telling to go f___ themselves.) Seriously, I think it’s the way Arum has chosen to “promote” Donaire that has kept the junior bantie off Showtime and other U.S. networks. The only attractive opponent Donaire has been in with since he left Shaw was Raul Martinez (a Mexican-American prospect/fringe contender who was 24-0 at the time and had been featured on a few Telefutura broadcasts). However, Arum wanted that flyweight title defense to take place in Manila. Why? I have no idea. I know Donaire was born in the Philippines, but come on, the kid’s an American! He grew up in San Leandro, Calif. He lives in San Francisco. He should be fighting in San Jose, Calif., and the Bay Area, and those fights should be on a U.S. network (if not Showtime or HBO, then basic cable, such as Fox Sports Net). He shouldn’t be fighting in the Philippines and he shouldn’t be hidden away on “Pinoy Power” pay-per-view shows that are geared to just one or two ethnic groups among hardcore fans. Donaire ain’t Rey “Boom Boom” Bautista! He speaks perfect English for Christ’s sake! He’s intelligent and charismatic. Arum needs to let a broad American fight fan audience see him, because the young man has the talent, style and flair to be a star, and not just in the Filipino community.
Does Arum make money on his small pay-per-view shows? I know he’s made some decent change with the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.- and Jorge Arce-headlined “Latin Fury” shows, but I think he just breaks even with the “Pinoy Power” cards (with the foreign TV license fees and sponsorship). God knows he didn’t get much from the gate of Saturday’s show. That ballroom looked empty. And I doubt the PPV did well. Your email is the ONLY email I’ve received on the card (as of 2 p.m. PT on Sunday). That should tell you something. But who knows? Maybe a bunch of hardcore heads purchased the show and simply had nothing to say about it. The program was basically two mismatches (the Donaire and Montiel “fights”), one robbery (Morel-Penalosa) and one decent scrap (Concepcion-Santiago).
Maybe if Golden Boy Promotions had put on this show I would have received more feedback. You know, the usual stuff like “How could Oscar De La Hoya charge $40 for this crap?”, “Mismatches like those are the reason boxing is suffering!” and “Shame on Golden Boy for those terrible scorecards in the Morel-Penalosa fight!”
And then they would all end their emails with this little gem: “I don’t expect you to put this email in your mailbag because you work for Golden Boy and your boss, Oscar, won’t let you criticize them. Why don‘t you just admit that you‘re biased!?”
Of course, I have to wonder why so many fans (and some boxing writers) are “biased” when it comes to Arum’s cards. An Arum-promoted fighter (Morel) got what I thought was a blatant gift against a Golden Boy Promotions fighter (Penalosa) on a Top Rank show and nobody says a damn thing.
Arum serves a big dominant fighter like Donaire a midget and it’s OK. Montiel (a talented veteran with more than 40 pro bouts under his belt) fights a bona fide prospect (a kid with 14 fights), who gets destroyed in one round and no one says anything. Can you imagine the backlash if Golden Boy promotions put a young prospect like Luis Ramos in with Michael Katsidis or Juan Manuel Marquez? I can because I’ve got hear from those message board whack jobs on a regular basis.
Sorry to rant, Adam. I know you’re not one of those whack jobs but I was a little bit surprised there wasn’t more outrage about the mismatches and poor decisions on Saturday’s small PPV card.
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