Williams is ranked a Top 5 P4Pounder on many lists.

[El Castigador]

No I replaced him with Sergio Martinez, the guy who beat him. What dont you understand?

You do know he LOST that fight and he hasnt had his hand raised in 2 years.

[IMDAZED]

You do know he LOST that fight and he hasnt had his hand raised in 2 years.

I thought Williams won by narrow decision over Martinez but it was close enough to where I can see a one or two point swing in the opposite direction. How two fighters battling on even terms knocks one of them OFF the pound for pound list and the other ON it is so dumb I don't know where to begin. Maybe I should start at the person's education level.

[Jim Jeffries]

You do know he LOST that fight and he hasnt had his hand raised in 2 years.

You do realize that the more you run down Martinez, the worse it makes Williams look?

Martinez was robbed twice in the Cintron fight and according to most people, including me, robbed in the Williams fight, plus it's only been 16 months since the Bunema fight.

[El Castigador]

You do realize that the more you run down Martinez, the worse it makes Williams look?

Martinez was robbed twice in the Cintron fight and according to most people, including me, robbed in the Williams fight, plus it's only been 16 months since the Bunema fight.

Williams would struggle with any southpaw. Nothing special.

[BattlingNelson]

Wait...how can you say...



Then say "So???" when I differentiate between the two? I suggest YOU let it go.

Because of your double standards. Here you say that Winky Wright was DEFINETELY top 20 despite him being 37 and coming off a 2-3 year layoff:

Antonio Margarito was definitely in the top 20. Winky Wright as well. He just recently beat the best junior middle in the world in an epic war. He's already won titles in two divisions. I don't know about top five but he's certainly top 10.

But then when it comes to Floyd who was coming off a 2 year lay off you wont rank him even after he has come back. Not even top 20:

You also mentioned resume. Or do fighters just get to stay on pound for pound lists regardless of how long ago the accomplishments were?

And Floyd Mayweather, at the very least, will re-affirm or lose his standing within the next three months. I, for one, do not rank him at the moment but I'm not knocking him for the Marquez tune-up.

Strange.

[Jim Jeffries]

Williams would struggle with any southpaw. Nothing special.

Nothing special about Williams? I agree.



And as for IMDAZED, Margarito was definitely not in the top 20 when he fought Williams, it wasn't until after he beat Cotto that he got p4p recognition.

[El Castigador]

Nothing special about Williams? I agree.



And as for IMDAZED, Margarito was definitely not in the top 20 when he fought Williams, it wasn't until after he beat Cotto that he got p4p recognition.

Are you ******? Margarito was the Number 1 WW.

There is nothing special about a southpaw making Williams struggle.

[IMDAZED]

Because of your double standards. Here you say that Winky Wright was DEFINETELY top 20 despite him being 37 and coming off a 2-3 year layoff:



But then when it comes to Floyd who was coming off a 2 year lay off you wont rank him even after he has come back. Not even top 20:





Strange.

What is wrong with you? Where do I state that Winky is in MY top 20? Are you dense? Let it go because I'm starting to believe you are.

[IMDAZED]

Nothing special about Williams? I agree.



And as for IMDAZED, Margarito was definitely not in the top 20 when he fought Williams, it wasn't until after he beat Cotto that he got p4p recognition.

I had no idea pound for pound lists extended to #20.

[Pacturd]

Pacquiao is #1 P4P, so Manny KO Williams in one round!