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  • Originally posted by mazdaru View Post
    well fighting a stationary target like margacheato is worlds different from fighting floyd and floyd took oscars jab away
    floyd didnt take oscars jab away, oscar took oscars jab away.
    he gassed a bit and got a bit frustrated and didnt stick to the plan.

    cotto was a diff animal before margacheato, everyone knows this...
    cotto had tremendous power in both hands to keep guys off balance and
    he has a hell of a body attack, cotto slows guys down from being able
    to impose their will or game plan. unfortunately the concrete in margs hands
    broke him down.

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    • Originally posted by Dorian View Post
      I think Roger is right here, I don't see how Shane Mosley at this day and age can "swim without getting wet" with Floyd Mayweather.

      I see it a Mayweather UD 116-112.
      did you also pick berto ?lol

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      • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
        floyd didnt take oscars jab away, oscar took oscars jab away.
        he gassed a bit and got a bit frustrated and didnt stick to the plan.

        cotto was a diff animal before margacheato, everyone knows this...
        cotto had tremendous power in both hands to keep guys off balance and
        he has a hell of a body attack, cotto slows guys down from being able
        to impose their will or game plan. unfortunately the concrete in margs hands
        broke him down.
        good post let me add i think he beat zab better then meyweather did too (although i think money was on his way to stopin zab before the low blow)

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        • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
          could be i think you beat margacheato by not giving him momentum by moving away from him which i think money would have been doin cause he is not strong enough to do what mosley did which was stop marg's in his track's and tie him up and bully him backward's he would have try to box and move away and that would have played into marg's hand's i've never seen money fold under pressure i mean jlc pressure him and i felt like money lost that first fight but money is a good fighter i take nuttin away from him all i'm saying is every fighter has flaw's and i just don't think you can just outbox certain fighter's mosley margacheato are some of them cotto tryed to outbox margacheato and look what happen
          I think Floyd would have used the same game plan he used
          on Baldomir/De La Hoya for Margarito. Margarito is a counter
          punchers dream, with them wide swings. If Margarito was
          as good or strong as he is portrayed then he would not have
          needed tainted wraps to gain an upperhand and win.

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            I think Floyd would have used the same game plan he used
            on Baldomir/De La Hoya for Margarito. Margarito is a counter
            punchers dream, with them wide swings. If Margarito was
            as good or strong as he is portrayed then he would not have
            needed tainted wraps to gain an upperhand and win.
            lol good one i hate that cheater and honestly don't want to talk bout him in a good way any more money vs mosley will have testing and be a fair contest can't wait

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            • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
              floyd didnt take oscars jab away, oscar took oscars jab away.
              he gassed a bit and got a bit frustrated and didnt stick to the plan.

              cotto was a diff animal before margacheato, everyone knows this...
              cotto had tremendous power in both hands to keep guys off balance and
              he has a hell of a body attack, cotto slows guys down from being able
              to impose their will or game plan. unfortunately the concrete in margs hands
              broke him down.
              OK, let me get this straight. Oscar took his own jab away? Why do
              you think he got gassed, a bit frustrated and didn't stick to the plan?
              Sounds like he was getting discouraged because he couldn't beat
              Floyd. What do you think? Cotto has been rocked and wobbled
              in every big fight he was in and tagged very easy. I never believed
              Cotto could beat Floyd. Cotto cannot adjust in the ring and it
              showed in the fight with Margarito. Cotto is a puncher and I keep
              saying this, all you have to do is take his punch away and he is
              beatable and that's what Margarito did and Pacquiao.

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              • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                OK, let me get this straight. Oscar took his own jab away? Why do
                you think he got gassed, a bit frustrated and didn't stick to the plan?
                Sounds like he was getting discouraged because he couldn't beat
                Floyd. What do you think? Cotto has been rocked and wobbled
                in every big fight he was in and tagged very easy. I never believed
                Cotto could beat Floyd. Cotto cannot adjust in the ring and it
                showed in the fight with Margarito. Cotto is a puncher and I keep
                saying this, all you have to do is take his punch away and he is
                beatable and that's what Margarito did and Pacquiao.
                first hoya was an older fighter so i kinda feel like he could not put out that jab for 12 full round's or chase money for 12 full round's even roach had said before that oscar could not pull the trigger anymore.back to the cotto thing again can't agree with you cotto can make adjustment's in a fight like with judah mosley .he was strong enough to make the right move vs margacheato which was to tie up a bit more and work on the inside when pac got cotto he was a very different fighter so all the would of could of with floyd and cotto make's no different's cause money never got in with him in his prime i belive money was worryed about both of those fight's that's why we never seen umm

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                • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
                  first hoya was an older fighter so i kinda feel like he could not put out that jab for 12 full round's or chase money for 12 full round's even roach had said before that oscar could not pull the trigger anymore.back to the cotto thing again can't agree with you cotto can make adjustment's in a fight like with judah mosley .he was strong enough to make the right move vs margacheato which was to tie up a bit more and work on the inside when pac got cotto he was a very different fighter so all the would of could of with floyd and cotto make's no different's cause money never got in with him in his prime i belive money was worryed about both of those fight's that's why we never seen umm
                  Cotto didn't tie up Margarito once or set up his best punch
                  which is the body punch because the heat was on him and
                  he couldn't adjust to Margarito's pressure. In that fight, Cotto
                  saw he couldn't hurt Margarito and got on his bike to the point
                  Margarito was jogging after Cotto. Cotto likes to pressure his
                  opponents and that is what he did to Zab but he couldn't
                  effectively do that to Mosley or Margarito because they were
                  stronger than Zab was mentally. Cotto is not a thinker in
                  the ring and am pretty sure eventhough it didn't happen
                  that Floyd would have put on a show similiar to Gatti on
                  Cotto because Cotto had no real defensive skills and Floyd
                  was just too accurate of a puncher with speed and defense.
                  I wish that fight would have happened when Cotto was
                  undefeated as well.

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                  • Miguel Cotto could have been a lot better than he was but his
                    ego didn't allow him to use outsiders with more training experience
                    to help him bring out his potential and that's why he downsided
                    so early in his career.

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                    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      Cotto didn't tie up Margarito once or set up his best punch
                      which is the body punch because the heat was on him and
                      he couldn't adjust to Margarito's pressure. In that fight, Cotto
                      saw he couldn't hurt Margarito and got on his bike to the point
                      Margarito was jogging after Cotto. Cotto likes to pressure his
                      opponents and that is what he did to Zab but he couldn't
                      effectively do that to Mosley or Margarito because they were
                      stronger than Zab was mentally. Cotto is not a thinker in
                      the ring and am pretty sure eventhough it didn't happen
                      that Floyd would have put on a show similiar to Gatti on
                      Cotto because Cotto had no real defensive skills and Floyd
                      was just too accurate of a puncher with speed and defense.
                      I wish that fight would have happened when Cotto was
                      undefeated as well.
                      and you think that margacheato's pressure would not have got to money sorry but money is not strong enough to tie up margacheato and bully him backwards and if you run or try to box him you only play into his hand's i don't see marga swingin wildly he pity pat's but hardly hiting arm's neck's body anything he can very danger's fight then you add the hand wrap's he would have stop money lol the hand wrap's that guy is an *******

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