Juan Diaz - done at 26?

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  • LEFTYGUNZZ
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    #11
    Originally posted by lyricalether
    Marquez damaged him..Took his ferocity from him..he went all out against marquez and was out smarted...I didnt see the same Juan Diaz against paulie that I saw in the Marquez fight..
    The style match up was way different and Paulie is a decent sized 140 Juan Marquez is small at 135. BIG difference believe me.

    Originally posted by tanibanana
    remains to be seen... w/ only few losses, and still at his prime years, it all depends on him how will he get up.. now he is down but probably aint done yet. the best thing to do right now is get back at 135, he has no place in 140.
    He needs to go back to 135 but I think he plans on cashing out going for big money with Valero and IF he can win a bigger money fight at 140.

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    • Pollo Boricua
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      #12
      I think he is done but maybe if he gets a long rest and regroups he can come back but after both Malignaggi fights (I scored the first one of Paulie) I really think he has nothing left

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      • El 7 Mares V.2
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        #13
        I wouldn't say he's "done" but he's certainly not the fighter he used to be anymore, he became a world champion young and was on a really hot streak, beat some good names but then took some really bad loses, the Campbell fight was the beginning of his downfall, Marquez really extinguished his flame and the Paulie loss sealed the deal. Maybe a fight against Katsidis can bring his confidence back if Katsidis fights the same ****ty fight he did the first time, I think Katsidis will take it this time though, if Juan loses then I think we can just take him off the picture completely.

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        • Hagler★
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          #14
          He has realised that he cant steam roll everyone with a million punches. He needs to learn how to adapt, its not too late.

          The fact he lacks punching power doesn't help either!

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          • Chrismart
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            #15
            Im a fan of Diaz, hopefully he bounces back.
            His fight against Campbell was a learning curve, and there is no shame losing to JJM, hes an excellent fighters , even at 135. I actually thought Diaz would beat Malignaggi, but i think those fights showed that Juan should stay at 135.
            Talk of his next fight being against Katsidis. As already said, could be a 'no-win' situaton really, but if it shapes up to be the brawl we thought the first fight would be than il be happy to watch it.
            If he stays at 135 and fights some competitive names, im sure he will add some knew skills to his game and bounce back. I hope so, iv got alot of repect for Diaz as he isnt afraid to lose the zero in his 'lost' coloum.
            Last edited by Chrismart; 02-10-2010, 11:22 AM.

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            • Blue Heffner
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              #16
              Diaz needs to be matched up properly. But at top level, he's done.

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              • apokalips
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                #17
                One minute we want to see the best face the best with some people saying they would respect undefeated fighters more if he had lost a fight because it shows they have taken a challenge, yet I then see people saying some of these guys have bad management because they've been put in there with the best and lost!

                I thought losses didn't matter? Juan Diaz has been in some big fights and good on him, you win some you lose some its all part of the experience. I will not write him off after this run of fights yet. Malignaggi has experience and is very slick and I believe is just a better boxer than Baby Bull. As for the JMM fight he did extremely well but JMM knows how to dig deep and pull the victory out.

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                • Number One
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                  #18
                  diaz should fight khan or hatton.... he would get beat up by both

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                  • -Mustang-
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                    #19
                    I don't think he's done ... did he lose a couple fights recently?? yes ... but i think he has plenty in the tank, he just needs to take it easy in his next fight then build up to a fight, if he takes on Valero next he might get KO'd, but i think he has a good chance

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                    • ny123
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by lyricalether
                      Marquez damaged him..Took his ferocity from him..he went all out against marquez and was out smarted...I didnt see the same Juan Diaz against paulie that I saw in the Marquez fight..
                      Originally posted by SlickBoxer

                      Agree 100% with that. Marquez turned the Baby Bull into Babyfat.

                      Very similar to what Mayweather did to Hatton. When he took his 0, he took his soul. Went from the Hitman to the man who gets Hit.
                      jmm did have an effect on him but lets not forget that nate cambell was the one who gave him his first loss by not letting diaz outwork him and never backing down if you watched that fight it was the first time somebody stood up to his pressure and i think that was the beginning of his decline even before he got in the ring with marquez.

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