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  • AndyShitHot
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    #21
    Originally posted by tehMatrix
    why would you compare it to the taylor fight? simon and taylor are completley different fighters that fight completely different, for one taylor looked like he just wanted to last the distance, while simon was there to take a win

    and what the hell does arthur have in his fists? everytime he misses it looks like he's about to go flying with his momentum
    Because the Taylor fight was at SMW, a weight division which Abraham is a lot more comfortable in.

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    • gingeralbino
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      #22
      Originally posted by tehMatrix
      relax, im not tryin to discredit him, i was watching the fight and it genuinely suprised the hell outta me when he got tagged by a lovetap and held on for dear life, i didn't know about the 20 pounds lost
      just curious, how do u think Dirrel will decide to box in this fight?

      Will he learn from the Froch fight and trust his speed and reflexes more and engage a bit more, or will he be confident as he has got home advantage that the judges will score the fight correctly and not punish him for negativity and fight the same way?

      Obv im not expecting him to go toe to toe with AA, but a bit more action would be nice!! Late in the froch fight (from what i can remember, Im not watching that again) when he did trade he was capable of getting his punches in whilst making Froch miss at the same time (whereas earlier in the fight he was either making Froch miss or landing 1 punch and legging it). Can i expect to see him show a bit more faith in his own abilities in the AA fight, or am i gonna be screaming at the TV again for someone to shoot him in the leg?
      Last edited by gingeralbino; 02-09-2010, 12:25 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by boxer2k5
        have you ever fought or boxed before? do you know what it takes to ko or hurt someone?
        you do know its not a video game and people dont have a set health bar and no guage to judge what punch hurts and what punch dont hurt.

        all it takes is i believe 7 pounds per square inch to knock someone out. even a young girl can produce that. but so much comes into play when it comes to getting hrut dazed or knocked out. more comes into play whether someone is a hard hitter or not a knockout artist dont mean they cant hurt anyone.

        you got grown men punching anything can happen
        would'nt the 7 pounds per square inch vary per person?

        please stfu, some people have iron, solid, good chins, others have a glass chin

        and yea i've boxed, why are you getting all emotional by the way?
        even the abrahammer(cleaner147) knows im not makin this thread just to diss arthur

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          #24
          Originally posted by gingeralbino
          just curious, how do u think Dirrel will decide to box in this fight?

          Will he learn from the Froch fight and trust his speed and reflexes more and engage a bit more, or will he be confident as he is got home advantage that the judges will score the fight correctly and not punish him for negativity and fight the same way?

          Obv im not expecting him to go toe to toe with AA, but a bit more action would be nice!! Late in the froch fight (from what i can remember, Im not watching that again) when he did trade he was capable of getting his punches in whilst making Froch miss at the same time (whereas earlier in the fight he was either making Froch miss or landing 1 punch and legging it). Can i expect to see him show a bit more faith in his own abilities in the AA fight, or am i gonna be screaming at the TV again for someone to shoot him in the leg?
          i really think(well hope) that dirrell has learned that he can't just run off like he did in the stevens fight and the first half of the froch fight(not that it was as bad as the stevens fights, christ that fight ****** ass)

          just my two cents, but i really think dirrell will engage more, see'ing as how arthur covers up if the opponent is throwing, he'll move, use that piston jab, and i can see him counterin arthur real easy, not often tho, as arthur charges alot in the last couple of rounds, dirrell will be more than happy to just get outta the way rather try and counter inbetween that mess that the king creates when he bullrushes you into the ropes and swings like a mad man

          dirrell has a **** load of advantages in this fight, if he doesn't win, it'll just show that he really is too inexperienced and was rushed into fighting elites too quickly, because he's 6'2(as opposed to arthur being 5'10), he has 4 inches in reach, and his speed is phenomenal along with his reflexes, there should be no reason for him losing this unless arthur gets a lucky punch in
          but i also think it'll take more than one punch from arthur to knock out dirrell
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-09-2010, 12:34 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by tehMatrix
            would'nt the 7 pounds per square inch vary per person?

            please stfu, some people have iron, solid, good chins, others have a glass chin

            and yea i've boxed, why are you getting all emotional by the way?
            even the abrahammer(cleaner147) knows im not makin this thread just to diss arthur
            emotional? im just explaining that because someone get dazed doesnt mean anything. doesnt matter who did it if you get caught flush theres a chance to be dazed. why cant you reply like a grown man why are you getting emotional? and iron chins and glass jaws doesnt exsist. yeah some take punches better than others but its all conditioning and will and technique. and noone really gets hit the same exact speed area and punch so noone can say he can take this punch but this guy cant. because theres no way to gauge that both punches were the same.

            have you ever been dazed before?

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              #26
              Originally posted by boxer2k5
              emotional? im just explaining that because someone get dazed doesnt mean anything. doesnt matter who did it if you get caught flush theres a chance to be dazed. why cant you reply like a grown man why are you getting emotional? and iron chins and glass jaws doesnt exsist. yeah some take punches better than others but its all conditioning and will and technique. and noone really gets hit the same exact speed area and punch so noone can say he can take this punch but this guy cant. because theres no way to gauge that both punches were the same.

              have you ever been dazed before?
              is that what it is? amir khan has no will yet even with his fragile chin he continuesly steps back into the ring? or maybe it's because he's not well conditioned? yep, he defienetly just doesn't workout enough, but your next claim is the best, taking a punch is all about technique, how could i have not figured that out sooner? your a genious

              and no i've never been dazed

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                #27
                haha.
                its not about chins. its more about this brain swimming in ur head... u know?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by tehMatrix
                  i really think(well hope) that dirrell has learned that he can't just run off like he did in the stevens fight and the first half of the froch fight(not that it was as bad as the stevens fights, christ that fight ****** ass)

                  just my two cents, but i really think dirrell will engage more, see'ing as how arthur covers up if the opponent is throwing, he'll move, use that piston jab, and i can see him counterin arthur real easy, not often tho, as arthur charges alot in the last couple of rounds, dirrell will be more than happy to just get outta the way rather try and counter inbetween that mess that the king creates when he bullrushes you into the ropes and swings like a mad man

                  dirrell has a **** load of advantages in this fight, if he doesn't win, it'll just show that he really is too inexperienced and was rushed into fighting elites too quickly, because he's 6'2(as opposed to arthur being 5'10), he has 4 inches in reach, and his speed is phenomenal along with his reflexes, there should be no reason for him losing this unless arthur gets a lucky punch in
                  but i also think it'll take more than one punch from arthur to knock out dirrell
                  should be an interesting fight, i got AA to win the tourny, but Dirrel is the one man in it that can beat him.
                  AA gives rounds away at the start and doesnt usually get going until about 4 or 5, so if it does go to a decision he's gonna need to put a clinic on for the remainder of the fight (pretty unlikely imo). Cant make my mind up about this fight either Dirrel UD or a late KO for AA. Cant remember who put Dirrel on his ass but he showed good recovery after it, but AA has some serious pop in his hands, he tries to kill u with nearly every punch he throws, if he hurts Dirrel he'll not let him of the hook. I cant see Dirrel not getting hit by a big shot at some stage, it might just come down to how long is left in the round when it happens.

                  AA has a good guard and chin so i cant see Dirrel hurting him.

                  Im intrigued as how this is gonna play out, but i cant say im hyped about it, it'll probably be a stinker until the later rounds when tiredness and (maybe) desperation of one fighter kicks in.
                  Last edited by gingeralbino; 02-09-2010, 12:44 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix
                    is that what it is? amir khan has no will yet even with his fragile chin he continuesly steps back into the ring? or maybe it's because he's not well conditioned? yep, he defienetly just doesn't workout enough, but your next claim is the best, taking a punch is all about technique, how could i have not figured that out sooner? your a genious

                    and no i've never been dazed
                    you never been dazed? how long have you boxed?

                    and the amir khan comment i said its about will condition. he can have the will
                    he got knocked out once in his mind he believes he just got caught everyone knows
                    thats part of the game and theres a chance. has nothing to do with chin who knows he
                    prob never get knocked out again. and when i say condition i don mean stamina and weight even tho that plays a role as well. i mena conditioned to take a punch.
                    some of the guys with so called great chins are jsut conditioned to take punch better than others. anyway i see your getting all mad and cant debate or hold a simple thread boxing talk without being a jerk so ill leave it alone.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by tehMatrix
                      is that what it is? amir khan has no will yet even with his fragile chin he continuesly steps back into the ring? or maybe it's because he's not well conditioned? yep, he defienetly just doesn't workout enough, but your next claim is the best, taking a punch is all about technique, how could i have not figured that out sooner? your a genious

                      and no i've never been dazed
                      and it doesnt take a genious to learn how to spell genius

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