Dedication and hardwork=greatness

[infamous larryx]

bump...................

[SplitSecond]

holyfield would be nothin with steroids, remember that

[Curtiz]

Ive had alot of time to sit and think..and imo the greatness cannot be acheived by steroids,peds',epo's nor is it determined by age..dedication and hardwork is the key to greatness and there can be no substitutions...seriously..when has any steroid user rose to greatness???and how can you say a 40 year old is old when dedicated fighters like hopkins,foreman,etc,etc have been the top fighters in the sport???and fighters like vargas(steroid user)retired and was called shot at 29???..greatness cannot be cheated in boxing..there are simply to mny factors in boxing..only dedication and hardwork can take a young aspiring boxer to the top of the sport..thats why you rarely see REAL atg's in this sport..cherish the moment cause great fighters dont come along to often

shhhhhh shhhhhh

[-The Glove-]

I'm with Larry on this one. Everyone else just stating what wikipedia says about steroids.

[LeeVanCleef]

TS=Green K for GREAT thread.

[OaktownGhost]

the Mafia without Larry is like the short yellow bus without Burner sitting in the front

lmfo

[rommel357]

Can PEDs help you . Yes or No.

Help you with what? Be more specific.

1. Can PED's help you develop your skills and talent. **** NO!
2. Can PED's help you develop your technique. **** NO!
3. Can PED's help you develop your dedication and commitment. **** NO!
4. Can PED's help you develop your work ethic. **** NO!

I understand that some of these are redundant, but i'm being specific, too specific. All of these combine can achieve greatness. I do agree that PED's can enhance and help specific attributes whether it be strenght or endurance, but in no way can it do any of these or develop any of these special attributes that one needs to be great.

[rommel357]

They can make you faster.

They can help you heal quicker.

They can make you stronger.

They can help you cut weight.

They can help your stamina.

None of that would matter if you don't work on your skills, talent, and technique, that is if you have any at all. None of that would matter if you don't have the proper work ethic, dedication, and commitment. PED's cannot give you any of these attributes, These things are more important and what matters, without any of these things PED's will not help and you will not achieve greatness. But you can achieve greatness just by having these attributes, just look at Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. Nuff said.

[mazdaru]

larry, you flip flop more than thongs

[Sugar Ram]

If you dont think Performance ENHANCING drugs dont enhance performance you got alot of readin to do my dude.

You can cheat in boxing.

ya you can cheat but you wont go far...you wont be the greatest,because the law of nature will stop you. when has any cheater in the sport of boxing been the greatest???