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  • legend
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Truth
    Because Toney is a great fighter and Ruiz isn't, plus you have to remember Toney would be better prepared if they fought again. You know what I think everyone is getting brain washed by the pretender that Ruiz is a great heavy. LOL!
    I never said Ruiz was a great fighter. I honestly hate the guy's style and wish I never had to witness one of his fights ever again. But reality is reality and Toney barely beat him. I think it's Toney that has everyone brainwashed after taking John "The Worst Champion Out There" to a unaminous decision. The speculation that Toney would be in better shape for a rematch is just that: speculation.

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    • jabsRstiff
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      #12
      This is all a setup to keep John Ruiz in the title picture.

      Don King poisoned James Toney's water bottle with the illegal roid.
      He knew Toney would beat Ruiz.....& this is how he'll steal the win from him.

      Suck on that, Wlad Klit fans !

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      • Derranged_
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Truth
        Great then Byrd can beat Ruiz!
        I'm all for that baby!

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        • Truth
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          #14
          Originally posted by legend
          I never said Ruiz was a great fighter. I honestly hate the guy's style and wish I never had to witness one of his fights ever again. But reality is reality and Toney barely beat him. I think it's Toney that has everyone brainwashed after taking John "The Worst Champion Out There" to a unaminous decision. The speculation that Toney would be in better shape for a rematch is just that: speculation.
          If Ruiz takes Toney's place in the Byrd fight, Ruiz will lose again.

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          • legend
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            #15
            Originally posted by jabsRstiff
            This is all a setup to keep John Ruiz in the title picture.

            Don King poisoned James Toney's water bottle with the illegal roid.
            He knew Toney would beat Ruiz.....& this is how he'll steal the win from him.

            Suck on that, Wlad Klit fans !
            If Don King was that influential on the outcome of that fight, Toney never would have gotten the decision to begin with. Nuff said.

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            • Run
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              #16
              Originally posted by The Truth
              If Ruiz takes Toney's place in the Byrd fight, Ruiz will lose again.

              I dare Ruiz to fight the winner of the Brewster/Golota fight which will be Lamon. He is going to rid boxing of that hugging clown once and for all. This of course if Ruiz gets the belt back from Toney's conviction. Mega showdown in the future:

              Vitali V.S. Brewster
              Wlad V.S. Toney



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              • Truth
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                #17
                Originally posted by legend
                If Don King was that influential on the outcome of that fight, Toney never would have gotten the decision to begin with. Nuff said.
                Toney clearly won the fight

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                • legend
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Runw/knives
                  I dare Ruiz to fight the winner of the Brewster/Golota fight which will be Lamon. He is going to rid boxing of that hugging clown once and for all. This of course if Ruiz gets the belt back from Toney's conviction. Mega showdown in the future:

                  Vitali V.S. Brewster
                  Wlad V.S. Toney
                  If those two fights ever happen, it'd be tight as hell to put them on the same card.

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                  • Double
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                    #19
                    Toney's 36, a suspension could end it for him. Although it would probably just be a WBA suspension. If he is suspended from all together i can't see him maintaining his fitnes through a prolonged suspension, it could be lights out on his career

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                    • !! Mr. Soprano
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Truth
                      Toney clearly won the fight
                      The Truth, yes he did win, yes he is a much better boxer than Ruiz..
                      And yes he doesn't need steroids to beat Ruiz.

                      What he does need steroids for is to allow him to do what he did for the full 12 rounds. Where are the guarantees that with his 233lb and 95% (I'm just making it up)body fat, he would have the endurance of going 12 rounds? He might have ran out of gas by 7/8 round. Who knows?

                      Agree?

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