Arum Is Trying To Be Slick

[jrosales13]

Dude, I'd spend my paycheck on front row seats if that came off.

Hell yeah.

If Valero does KO Bradley... That means he carried his power up the weight-class... I would love to see a Pac-Valero fight... it would be guaranteed knockout... I will be in attendance as well...

I agree with you and crack that it won't happen... But, if Valero KO'd Bradley I would hope they get it done...

[jrosales13]

I think you guys are underrating the power of the moment. Thats why I said Arum is doing this. Valero is not a star and wont make any kind of big money any time soon so thats why this is worth the risk. However, if he beats Bradley then he is a mega star "inside of boxing". You add that to him signing a Pac fight and the mainstream hears about him and see's him then this fight is huge. Once they hear that this is one of the most talked about fights in boxing, how this kid stopped 19 guys in the 1st and had an 18 fight streak, how he's stopped every opponent including the elite Bradley, how he dominated legends in sparring, how he fights like Pac, and how everyone is cosigning it then the public will go crazy. I mean lets be real, no one really knew much about Pac either. Its not that different of a situation.

Once they heard how great Pac was then they bought the Oscar fight. Now Pac is Oscar and Valero woud be similar to how Pac was at the time. He wouldnt have the great resume but he would have a couple of good wins, 1 great win, and a KO streak like no other. Add the way he looks and when they see him talking ****, that fight would be huge

I think you can do a better job then Bradley TBH.... Bradley is too risky and not a big name... If Arum really wanted to do this... He can put Valero against a Soto or Katsidis those are very winnable fights for Valero. And, FOTY material that would get Valero name out there... You can have him fight the winner of JMM-Khan preferably Marquez at 140... A winnable fight with a big name that would really put Valero on the map... A fight with Hatton... I mean Arum can do better than Bradley... If that is what Arum plan is...

[El Castigador]

Hold the phone... If Valero KO's Bradley... Who for the majority think is #1 at JWW... How does Pac have no business in fighting Valero above 135?

Pac is a WW. He should be fighting WW's.

Bradley should be fighting JWW's not Valero.

Valero vs. Katsidis, Funeka, Soto, Diaz, and Marquez is what I want to see.

[jrosales13]

Pac is a WW. He should be fighting WW's.

Bradley should be fighting JWW's not Valero.

Valero vs. Katsidis, Funeka, Soto, Diaz, and Marquez is what I want to see.

Valero has enough power to go to 140 so if he moves up Bradley should fight him...

Pac can still make 140... Just cuz he is so great that he can compete against top WWs does not make him a WW...

[DLT]

I think you can do a better job then Bradley TBH.... Bradley is too risky and not a big name... If Arum really wanted to do this... He can put Valero against a Soto or Katsidis those are very winnable fights for Valero. And, FOTY material that would get Valero name out there... You can have him fight the winner of JMM-Khan preferably Marquez at 140... A winnable fight with a big name that would really put Valero on the map... A fight with Hatton... I mean Arum can do better than Bradley... If that is what Arum plan is...

NO way he can do better than Bradley. Bradley is the credibility. So what about FOTY with Katsidis? Thats only going to hurt Valero. If he's the real deal then he should kill Katsidis. There is no money in that fight and the upside is very limited. Khan-JMM is solid but its not proven enough. Khan hasnt really done anything while some will try to say JMM is too old. I just think that the only way a Pac fight is credible is to have a Bradley win. Katsidis is not credible and I dont think those other guys are going to be quick to fight Valero when he's not any kind of a draw and he's risky. My point is that fights like Katsidis & stuff are just the natural progression anyways. That would be a next normal fight but thats not going to get him anywhere near Pac any time soon.

The only fight that really gets him there is Bradley. Not only that but even inside of boxing, those other wins would be solid but just natural progression type wins. A Bradley win makes him instantly elite and everything is credible from then on with Pac or whoever. Not only that but he can still fight guys like Khan or JMM after that and its instantly 10x bigger. I think Arum believes that is a risk worth taking and that Bradley is good but he's not on the Pac-Floyd-Mosley level. He can be beat, e****ally by a fast power punching southpaw. If he loses then its not a huge loss. Arum is also older and Pac only has a few fights left. Arum is going for the Gold

[Guest]

NO way he can do better than Bradley. Bradley is the credibility. So what about FOTY with Katsidis? Thats only going to hurt Valero. If he's the real deal then he should kill Katsidis. There is no money in that fight and the upside is very limited. Khan-JMM is solid but its not proven enough. Khan hasnt really done anything while some will try to say JMM is too old. I just think that the only way a Pac fight is credible is to have a Bradley win. Katsidis is not credible and I dont think those other guys are going to be quick to fight Valero when he's not any kind of a draw and he's risky. My point is that fights like Katsidis & stuff are just the natural progression anyways. That would be a next normal fight but thats not going to get him anywhere near Pac any time soon.

The only fight that really gets him there is Bradley. Not only that but even inside of boxing, those other wins would be solid but just natural progression type wins. A Bradley win makes him instantly elite and everything is credible from then on with Pac or whoever. Not only that but he can still fight guys like Khan or JMM after that and its instantly 10x bigger. I think Arum believes that is a risk worth taking and that Bradley is good but he's not on the Pac-Floyd-Mosley level. He can be beat, e****ally by a fast power punching southpaw. If he loses then its not a huge loss. Arum is also older and Pac only has a few fights left. Arum is going for the Gold

DLT, I think the point you are missing is that he's naming guys that are better known than Bradley, not necessarily better than Bradley.

[DLT]

DLT, I think the point you are missing is that he's naming guys that are better known than Bradley, not necessarily better than Bradley.

better known where? Those guys aint never made any kind of money. Only one thats halfway known is JMM but he got beat so bad by Floyd that no one would care. Khan? No one in the US knows him. Hatton? KO twice? Its not about who is the better known at this point because Pac overides all of that. Right now its about the best win that brings you creidibility. If he beats Bradley then the Pac fight is right there. Pac will bring alot of money himself and people will buy it once you hear the story. Those other guys arent going to make people say that he's qualified to fight Pac and its not going to be more credible.

If he cant get Pac then he can fight all those guys as a subsitute but now he gets alot more money. Again, you also have to way the risk. If you are going to fight guys he can lose to then fight the guy who gives you the biggest upside if you win. The other fights make no sense to me. The only one that halfway does is Hatton but again, people just saw him get KO twice. They willl look at it more like Hatton sucks than Valero is great. If he beats Bradley though then its instant cred and he is now elite. Instead of being the guy looking to fight all those guys you named, now he is the guy that all of them has to or wants to fight and he gets alot more money and possibly a chance at the King