Valero would murder Floyd @ 135-140lbs

[bdevils]

I don't even know why I put up debates when all you guys say are NO, WRONG, NUTHUGGER without posting any good argument in return. You guys call me a nuthug, yet all you guys do is repeat each other because none of you can make up your own arguments. NSB has turned into follow the leader, with you guys as proof. Love my opinion or hate it, at least I make an argument on my own.

No you started a thread with nothing to back it up and that's why your getting the responses your getting.

I was very impressed with Valero 2nite but you can't say off of one fight that he would beat Floyd let alone destroy him, that's just absurd. There were plenty of fighters who pressured, came at angles and threw combo's @ Floyd and well you seen wut happened.

[ELPacman]

I want the thread starter to name ONE fighter who hasn't tried to rush Floyd with angles, pressure, and combos!..

DAMN I thought this was a BOXING FAN SITE..this is a big ass NUTHUG competition..*******s got their lil willies hard when they kept hearing the Pacquiao comparisons!..

I thought the thread starter was a bit smarter than this..guess nuthugging is a contagious disease around these parts..glad I got my shot in time!...

That doesn't make too much sense but I think I got you. Castillo put up a DECENT attempt in their 1st bout and SHOULD have won that fight. It was nothing like what Valero would do though which can backup my argument that Valero WOULD win the decision. Hatton did some real ****ty pressure and won some early rounds although I never thought Hatton would have won that fight anyway as he was going back up to a weight class he never belong in. But this brings me back to the fact that Floyd hasn't fought enough competition with higher workrates. This allows him to potshot and pick his opponents apart since he's fighting guys with 1 punch technique.

[Shadow boxer 3]

Valero would murder Katsidi in 1 rd.




Ya right, because he's fought so many great fighters at those weight to back it up. How about I'll believe what I see and not what you think because that's as good as Floyd saying he's the best w/o fighting the best.



Based on what? Because Valero sits around throwing 1 punch at a time? You guys are so mislead into believing Floyd can counter all day or pick fighters apart when none of them had a challenging workrate aside from Castillo to really make Floyd uncomfortable. Castillo wasn't even crazy enough in the 1st fight and most feel he won it. That alone even though I hate to say because of what 1 guy did, but that alone would make me say Valero easily destroys/UD Floyd.

valero beat up demarco so now all of a sudden he can beat floyd. and remind u that at 130-135 floyd was a beast. and how the **** did floyd get in this anyway. valero/demarco had absolutly nothing to do with floyd but u find away to turn it into something negative about floyd

[keepthemhandsup]

top 10 light weight floyd mayweather was


hell maybe even top 5

[ELPacman]

Also for the record, I been a fan of Valero for a long time now. Yes Showtime did mention Pacquiao like attributes during the telecast, but so did I long before and numerous posts. Just because I'm a fan of him as well, doesn't mean I'm a hugger. I thought Demarco could have pulled off the upset tonight.

[DLT]

El, I know you are a Pac fan but this is crazy. His work rate isnt that special. It wasnt like Pac Man and his power wasnt blowing me away either. He was so one demensional also. I thought you even admitted that this Pac would beat Floyd but not the one dememsional Pac. Well thats what Valero is. Also, you talk about work rate but Floyd threw alot at those weights. Its not even that Floyd would beat him but as of now, he would kill him. IDK what you saw tonight to made you think he looked good enough to murder Floyd. Its a mismatch, even worst than MAB vs Naz.

[ELPacman]

El, I know you are a Pac fan but this is crazy. His work rate isnt that special. It wasnt like Pac Man and his power wasnt blowing me away either. He was so one demensional also. I thought you even admitted that this Pac would beat Floyd but not the one dememsional Pac. Well thats what Valero is. Also, you talk about work rate but Floyd threw alot at those weights. Its not even that Floyd would beat him but as of now, he would kill him. IDK what you saw tonight to made you think he looked good enough to murder Floyd. Its a mismatch, even worst than MAB vs Naz.

Well I saw DeMarco who seemed to have an idea of what he wanted to do in his head, but when the workrate never ended, it through him completely off and after giving away those early rounds thinking he could settle in later and he never could I thought, Floyd would be exactly the same. He would let Valero probably take some early rounds thinking he could pick him apart if his workrate went down, but it never would. And I'll say he's an effective pressure fighter becuase like Pac, he steps back at the right time to avoid return fire and he can sneak in so many odd punches from odd angles.

[..WaRSpencE..]

No you started a thread with nothing to back it up and that's why your getting the responses your getting.

I was very impressed with Valero 2nite but you can't say off of one fight that he would beat Floyd let alone destroy him, that's just absurd. There were plenty of fighters who pressured, came at angles and threw combo's @ Floyd and well you seen wut happened.

THANK YOU!...that's what I've been trying to say!..Castillo came the closest..and Valero is NO PRIME CASTILLO!!...

Basically what this thread is trying to imply is that..Valero proved in 1 fight against a Mediocre and Untested Demarco..would some how "DEMOLISH" a Prime Mayweather at his Natural weights of 130/135..LMFAO!..how the fuck is that even debatable??

[check hook]

His workrate is sickening and he doesn't lack total boxing skills. He has enough to compliment his offensive style. Simply too many punches from too many angles to block and hide for 12 rds. Same reason Pacquiao will beat Floyd. He's the 2nd coming of Pacquiao who hasn't even retired yet.

You are joking right??

[arraamis]

I don't even know why I put up debates when all you guys say are NO, WRONG, NUTHUGGER without posting any good argument in return. You guys call me a nuthug, yet all you guys do is repeat each other because none of you can make up your own arguments. NSB has turned into follow the leader, with you guys as proof. Love my opinion or hate it, at least I make an argument on my own.

#1 - You didn't put up a debate - You made a ridiculous statement based on a fight where one opponent {Demarco} didn't even put up a fight.
While I do like Valero, he just hasn't been in the ring with quality opponents who can really test him. {He just got his license back} And has been fighting C-Level opponents over the last couple years until recently.

#2 - Why all the comparisons to FLOYD?????? Because you and every other guy here who put up these crazy threads know the truth "That Floyd is one of the very elite boxer's on the planet" If you didn't think that, then Floyd wouldn't even be mentioned in you crazy comparison posts.

#3 - Taking REALITY into consideration - No one would even try to put up a ridiculous debate on how Valero would KO Floyd.

#4 - Would Valero KO Pac ???????? Where's that thread ?????? I must be missing something.

This thread is and was SILLY from the moment you thought it up - which gives us a little insight as to what type of boxing fan you are OR ARE NOT.

Do I really have to type more to prove my point?????