Edwin Valero will fight Pacman

[El Castigador]

What makes you think Pac can not stop Valero with one punch?

He ddint stop anybody with one punch at 130.

[jrosales13]

He ddint stop anybody with one punch at 130.

Well he did at 140. That means he had to have power at 130. What makes you think that Valero chin is any better than Hatton?

[Guest]

Like many I wanted this fight at the lower weights for years.

Ideally, it should have happened in 2006.

Pac improved so much since then and Valero was put on the shelf and not getting fights.

I don't want to get into specifics too much because Pac would never fight Valero (it's not financially worth it and I understand that) but I always felt whoever got there first would win and it would be early early in the fight.

Back then they were two heavy handed unorthodox fighters who loved to trade. With two southpaws it's punches coming at strange angles and with plenty of power so it wouldn't last long.

Pac refined his game so much, but Valero didn't really have to because he had lesser competition and trouble getting sanctioned.


It's one of those fights that were woulda,coulda,shoulda, but will never happen but I give Valero a puncher's chance in it back then for sure.


And all the rumors of Valero handling Pac in sparring and Pac handling Valero in sparring are interesting but amount to nada.

I feel like we should just put this in the realm of make-believe fights.

[Spray_resistant]

Valero is not that good, the power is real and its impressive but I don't see much else.

[Guest]

Valero is not that good, the power is real and its impressive but I don't see much else.

Well power served George Foreman pretty well overall wouldn't you say.

I mean he went like 40 and 0 not even using a ton of skill before he met one of the greatest fighters ever

When he got older he got much smarter but power and power alone bails out a lot of guys a lot of the time.

[jrosales13]

Like many I wanted this fight at the lower weights for years.

Ideally, it should have happened in 2006.

Pac improved so much since then and Valero was put on the shelf and not getting fights.

I don't want to get into specifics too much because Pac would never fight Valero (it's not financially worth it and I understand that) but I always felt whoever got there first would win and it would be early early in the fight.

Back then they were two heavy handed unorthodox fighters who loved to trade. With two southpaws it's punches coming at strange angles and with plenty of power so it wouldn't last long.

Pac refined his game so much, but Valero didn't really have to because he had lesser competition and trouble getting sanctioned.


It's one of those fights that were woulda,coulda,shoulda, but will never happen but I give Valero a puncher's chance in it back then for sure.


And all the rumors of Valero handling Pac in sparring and Pac handling Valero in sparring are interesting but amount to nada.

I feel like we should just put this in the realm of make-believe fights.

I could give you green K, I would...

[El Castigador]

Valero is not that good, the power is real and its impressive but I don't see much else.

When you hit that damn hard, it can bail you out.

[Guest]

I could give you green K, I would...

Ha ha ha.

Our sigs are hot, bro.

Ha ha ha.

[Spray_resistant]

Well power served George Foreman pretty well overall wouldn't you say.

I mean he went like 40 and 0 not even using a ton of skill before he met one of the greatest fighters ever

When he got older he got much smarter but power and power alone bails out a lot of guys a lot of the time.

Well, George was bigger than most HWs at the time.

It was a huge factor is his success, Valero has gotten this far but now is stepping up against better guys and I think we are speaking too soon when comparing him to a proven great fighter like Pac.

[Guest]

Well, George was bigger than most HWs at the time.

It was a huge factor is his success, Valero has gotten this far but now is stepping up against better guys and I think we are speaking too soon when comparing him to a proven great fighter like Pac.

Sure I will give you that.

Pac has proved himself. I often feel the story of Pac can be told in 2 of his fights with Erik Morales.

The before and after of Pac.
Before the slugger with one hand, after the consummate adapting pro.

There's no story yet of Valero but the potential is there.