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  • Kball15
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    #1

    VALERO by KO4

    DeMarco has the boxing skills and ability to pull off the upset, but i dont believe he has the chin, toughness, or the defense.

    Valero, first of all, is an overrated puncher... BUT, he has rediculously heavy hands. He can wear you down really fast if he can land.

    And Demarcos defense is terrible. Look at every picture of him fighting on the net. He chin is always unprotected when he is punching. If Valero goes to war with and meets him punch for punch, he'll catch Demarco over and over and over again.

    DeMarco's ability will win him the early rounds, but i think Valero will quickly catch up with him and stop him relatively early.

    For me, the bet is UNDER 8.5 rounds
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    #2
    Valero by KO7

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    • Kball15
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      #3
      yea thats not a bad call either

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      • El 7 Mares V.2
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        #4
        Originally posted by Kball15
        DeMarco has the boxing skills and ability to pull off the upset, but i dont believe he has the chin, toughness, or the defense.

        Valero, first of all, is an overrated puncher... BUT, he has rediculously heavy hands. He can wear you down really fast if he can land.

        And Demarcos defense is terrible. Look at every picture of him fighting on the net. He chin is always unprotected when he is punching. If Valero goes to war with and meets him punch for punch, he'll catch Demarco over and over and over again.

        DeMarco's ability will win him the early rounds, but i think Valero will quickly catch up with him and stop him relatively early.

        For me, the bet is UNDER 8.5 rounds
        I stopped reading there K, I respect your opinion but I gotta disagree with you there. If we are talking about lack of defense Valero raises more red flags than DeMarco does by a mile, wild reckless bombs without any protection is Valero's game, DeMarco is long and accurate, what makes you think Valero is not going to be open for a nice DeMarco counter?

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        • Kball15
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          #5
          Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
          I stopped reading there K, I respect your opinion but I gotta disagree with you there. If we are talking about lack of defense Valero raises more red flags than DeMarco does by a mile, wild reckless bombs without any protection is Valero's game, DeMarco is long and accurate, what makes you think Valero is not going to be open for a nice DeMarco counter?
          i completely disagree.

          Valeros defense sucks but he is rediculously tough. of COARSE he is gonna be open to DeMarco counters, but he can eat them and keep coming. Valero only needs one punch. DeMarco is a solid puncher but he'll need 6 or 7 rounds of ass kicking to break Valero

          DeMarco has heart but theres a huge difference between toughness and heart. He takes damage and he looks fragile. To skinny and open.

          Valero is wild but thats not a problem if those punches still land, which i think they will.

          As i said, DeMarco has the ability to beat Valero, and he will win early rounds, but in my opinion, its only a matter of time before Valero starts getting to him.

          Either way, i like the UNDER 8.5 bet cause i dont think either of these guys will get past 8 rounds. Its gonna be hell in there

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          • El 7 Mares V.2
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            #6
            Originally posted by Kball15
            i completely disagree.

            Valeros defense sucks but he is rediculously tough. of COARSE he is gonna be open to DeMarco counters, but he can eat them and keep coming. Valero only needs one punch. DeMarco is a solid puncher but he'll need 6 or 7 rounds of ass kicking to break Valero

            DeMarco has heart but theres a huge difference between toughness and heart. He takes damage and he looks fragile. To skinny and open.

            Valero is wild but thats not a problem if those punches still land, which i think they will.

            As i said, DeMarco has the ability to beat Valero, and he will win early rounds, but in my opinion, its only a matter of time before Valero starts getting to him.

            Either way, i like the UNDER 8.5 bet cause i dont think either of these guys will get past 8 rounds. Its gonna be hell in there
            Since when has Valero "eaten leather and kept coming" before? as far as I know 16 or so of his fights have ended in the first round, barely untouched because he overwhelms his oponents with his power, and let's face it, who has Valero fought that possesed any sort of threat to him really? Mosquero who's a tough light puncher took him to hell for 10 rounds, even knocking him down, Pitalua can be said to be Valero's "first real test" because Pitalua is a KO artist like Valero, unfortunately for Pitalua he was never in the fight and actually seemed afraid of Valero's power from the beginning, however I give Valero props for stopping Pitalua that early.

            DeMarco, is still young, sure a lot of people are writing him off because he's realatively unknown, but words like "not tough enough for Valero" or "fragile" shouldn't even be written next to his name. DeMarco has been in brawls and has always come on top, and better yet has polish his style to a more of a boxer puncher and can still brawl if needed. I know why people ride the Valero hype, he can knock Mofo's out cold, but I seriously believe he will taste his first defeat on Saturday. The only thing we can agree on is that this fight won't go past the 8th round...TKO by DeMarco.

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            • mangler jr
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              #7
              Watch the Mosquera fight to see how easy Valero is to rock.

              Mosquera had him on ***** street a few times in that fight.

              This is a no brainer for me. DeMarco is too good for Valero.

              Period.

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              • Kball15
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                #8
                Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
                Since when has Valero "eaten leather and kept coming" before? as far as I know 16 or so of his fights have ended in the first round, barely untouched because he overwhelms his oponents with his power, and let's face it, who has Valero fought that possesed any sort of threat to him really? Mosquero who's a tough light puncher took him to hell for 10 rounds, even knocking him down, Pitalua can be said to be Valero's "first real test" because Pitalua is a KO artist like Valero, unfortunately for Pitalua he was never in the fight and actually seemed afraid of Valero's power from the beginning, however I give Valero props for stopping Pitalua that early.

                DeMarco, is still young, sure a lot of people are writing him off because he's realatively unknown, but words like "not tough enough for Valero" or "fragile" shouldn't even be written next to his name. DeMarco has been in brawls and has always come on top, and better yet has polish his style to a more of a boxer puncher and can still brawl if needed. I know why people ride the Valero hype, he can knock Mofo's out cold, but I seriously believe he will taste his first defeat on Saturday. The only thing we can agree on is that this fight won't go past the 8th round...TKO by DeMarco.
                Originally posted by street bully jr
                Watch the Mosquera fight to see how easy Valero is to rock.

                Mosquera had him on ***** street a few times in that fight.

                This is a no brainer for me. DeMarco is too good for Valero.

                Period.
                as ive said a dozen times already, DeMarco is definetly the more talented fighter, he just has some awful defense and when he gets into a war with a mega-puncher like Valero, he'll get knocked out.

                I dont need to explain myself anymore, the fight is tommorow and you will see what im talking about.

                Valero may lose every round up until the KO, it doesnt matter. He has the determination and heart to walk through anything DeMarco has to offer and keep coming.

                Neither guy has fought much of any competition, and DeMarco has faired much better because, as i have said, he is the much more talented fighter.

                But Valero too strong, too tough, and his hands are weight to heavy.

                Its only a matter of time b4 Valero gets exposed, but its gonna take someone who can pretect his chin to do something like that. DeMarco simply can't

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                • -Reflexes-
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
                  I stopped reading there K, I respect your opinion but I gotta disagree with you there. If we are talking about lack of defense Valero raises more red flags than DeMarco does by a mile, wild reckless bombs without any protection is Valero's game, DeMarco is long and accurate, what makes you think Valero is not going to be open for a nice DeMarco counter?
                  DeMarco is a prospect dude. They rushed him into this fight. He will get knocked the **** out EARLY.

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                  • mangler jr
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kball15
                    as ive said a dozen times already, DeMarco is definetly the more talented fighter, he just has some awful defense and when he gets into a war with a mega-puncher like Valero, he'll get knocked out.

                    I dont need to explain myself anymore, the fight is tommorow and you will see what im talking about.

                    Valero may lose every round up until the KO, it doesnt matter. He has the determination and heart to walk through anything DeMarco has to offer and keep coming.

                    Neither guy has fought much of any competition, and DeMarco has faired much better because, as i have said, he is the much more talented fighter.

                    But Valero too strong, too tough, and his hands are weight to heavy.

                    Its only a matter of time b4 Valero gets exposed, but its gonna take someone who can pretect his chin to do something like that. DeMarco simply can't
                    You're basing this on absolutely nothing. Against Mosquera he looked average. And every other fight he's had is against bums. Literally bums.

                    His resume is a mirage. If I didn't have all my points tied up in this fight I'd bet with you.

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