Vitali Is Most Underrated Fighter Now

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  • scap
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    #31
    Originally posted by TheGreat1
    I have seen the fight a few times, how can you jump on me for saying LL was going to win, but not comment on everyone who says VK was about to win. IMO i think LL would have pulled it off, VK couldn't see out of his left eye, and was getting tagged there, his whole left side even his lip was beat the **** up, I think LL was landing the harder punches, and no matter how many times i watch the fight i will still beleive that.
    All right I am sorry for jumping on you, but here's the deal, any VK fan who says he was going to win the fight is saying so because thats the result they want, same goes for people who say that LL was going to win. The fight was on the table, niether guy had the advantage...I too thought Lennox might have a slight nod going into the final six rounds until I saw him hit his stool, the guy was thru(so was VK). We may have very well seen a Rocky Balboa/Apollo Creed double knock down if the fight had continued...

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    • scap
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      #32
      Originally posted by Neuraxis
      Since you don't seem to know much about medicine or injuries here you go. http://www.myhealth24.com

      Torn rotator cuff (18 weeks): For serious injuries, the prognosis is usually good, some six weeks of physical therapy being required following surgery. Full recovery may take several more months. In some cases, the injury is so severe that it requires tendon grafts and muscle transfers. A severe injury is not repairable.

      Dislocated shoulder (2 weeks): After the dislocation has been corrected, the joint may require immobilization with a cast or sling for two to eight weeks.



      Broken Bone (6 weeks): It usually takes about six weeks for a broken bone to heal together.

      And if scientific facts aren't enough for you, just take a look at their records before and after their injuries.

      Biggs: before 8-0; after 21-10

      Fenech: before 22-0; after 5-3-1

      Vitali: before 27-0; after 7-1

      Hmmmm, who has done the best since their injury?
      Boy o Boy looks like I may have to really step up my game with posts like this...****...research, I don't know weather or not too think thats gay or thats impressive....I will give you the benefit...I'm impressed. At the very least you have dug up some interesting information...this is one of those insightful posts that I would expect out of ToneyTucker, thanks for the history lesson your info if correct is intruiging.

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      • SouthBayBboy
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        #33
        I was thinking about saying something about Brewster, but I think enough has been said already. As for you idiots who think VK isn't the best heavyweight in the world... you're lying to yourselves. So he got cut by Lewis, yeah, he lost, and Lewis DID beat him. But where's the big Brit these days??? His tapout with that rotator cuff injury, we'll never know what kind of pain he was in, rotator cuff injuries are weird, the pain depends on where the tear is and how severe it is, so I'll give the 6 foot whatever 200some lb DOCTOR the benefit of the doubt when were talking clinical diagnosis of a sports related injury... Ruiz is the only man that has a shot at taking down the giant, and judging by the way he looked a few weeks ago, I forsee another Kirk Johnson type fight in the making. VK is one of the smartest, hardest hitting heavyweights around right now, mix that in with his long arm style of pummelling men into the ground, you've got an UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

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        • vandaNEXTlegend
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          #34
          Witter the Hitter!

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          • plexmc
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            #35
            i feel u on that

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            • jabsRstiff
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              #36
              Originally posted by plexmc
              i feel u on that

              Rick Reeno....please ban this loser.

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              • Soundtraveler
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                #37
                Originally posted by TheGreat1
                He beat Meehan, KO'd wlad as for etienne he his a good fighter with alot of heart just not a great chin. i mean the guy has only lost 2 fights, and most of his wins are by KO, heart goes a long way.
                Yeah, Clifford has tons of heart, and a bad temper too! You know, he actually went undefeated in prison, so his actual record would be something like 55-2-2 !

                By the way, guys, I know my shoulder will require surgery, so says the doc, but I'm telling you, the pain is only bad in the mornings, and whenever I lift something wrong. There seems to be a point that during the lift I feel a stabbing pain on what feels like the top of shoulder joint itself. And as I type this, there is a bit of pain in the back of my arm in between the joint and the shoulder blade itself. -- O.K. -- my arm is pretty ****ed up -- I admit it. The doc said the tear will stay the way it is or perhaps worsen just a bit, but it isn't going to heal itself. Like I said I have had this thing for 10 months! It sucks....
                Last edited by Soundtraveler; 12-01-2004, 07:26 AM.

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                • jabsRstiff
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                  #38
                  Neuraxis....

                  Your numbers mean nothing to me.

                  One number does matter.....Round 2.
                  The fact that both the guys I noted sustained injuries THAT EARLY, yet fought their HEARTS out to win.....matters far more than the recovery time for each injury.

                  & please....don't ever dream to compare V. Klit to Jeff Fenech.
                  Fenech had THREE injuries, compared to Vit's ONE.
                  Fenech, is a great fighter. Klit, is just a good one.


                  All of your numerolgy, & talk of linear champs, shows me that you READ more than you think. Shows me don't really know the nuances of boxing.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                    Rick Reeno....please ban this loser.



                    Anyway Vitali is not really under rated . . .infact he is getting a lot of respect but he needs to establish his dominance inside that ring over his opponents . . . accept it or not the guy was injured and it affected him . . . his performance . . . 2 or 3 dominating performance against top contenders should "pump his name up". We will see how his career will turn up and he will be accorded due respect.

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                    • Neuraxis
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                      Neuraxis....

                      Your numbers mean nothing to me.

                      One number does matter.....Round 2.
                      The fact that both the guys I noted sustained injuries THAT EARLY, yet fought their HEARTS out to win.....matters far more than the recovery time for each injury.

                      & please....don't ever dream to compare V. Klit to Jeff Fenech.
                      Fenech had THREE injuries, compared to Vit's ONE.
                      Fenech, is a great fighter. Klit, is just a good one.


                      All of your numerolgy, & talk of linear champs, shows me that you READ more than you think. Shows me don't really know the nuances of boxing.
                      Wake up dude. Ask any doctor which injury is the most serious for long term effects. Just admit that you are wrong.

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