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  • daggum
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    #51
    Originally posted by skullduggery
    jmm is a much bigger risk than bradley... is u dont believe that i will gladly exit this conversation

    and just because he says hes willing to fight those two doesnt mean hes actually pushing for it... i remember some seriously luring trash talk in regard to victor ortiz
    no he's not. he is a tiny lightweight. tiny. he could still be at 130 if he wanted. bradley is not a tiny lightweight. if this was a p4p fight then it might be a bigger risk but since we live in reality marquez is small and bradley is a legit 140 pounder.

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    • daggum
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      #52
      Originally posted by skullduggery
      tarver is shot tho... i never said roy wasnt shot, he was just lookin better than he had in the past.... and how is witter considered the top? are u serious? beating emanuel agustes would earn u more respect than beating junior witter real talk
      tarver is shot? yea that's why he had the ibf belt. what belt did roy have again? oh yea he hasn't been good enough to have a belt since 2004. yea he looked better cause he was fighting lacy and sheika? tarver actually beat someone highly ranked to get his belt. roy did not fight anyone of note. and yes witter was one of the top fighters if you refuse to acknowledge that than fine. why would beating augustus give you more respect? witter was one of the top 5 junior welters at that time according to all knowledgeable sources. was augustus? no. its easy to rewrite history after people lose.
      Last edited by daggum; 02-04-2010, 11:29 PM.

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      • Heru
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        #53
        The Victor Ortiz with no jab and decent counterpunching skills? No. If he actually used his jab consistently and/or sharpened his counterpunching skills, he'd have a good/great shot. As is, he'd get picked apart.

        Bradley is extremely versatile; if he can't beat Khan boxing mid ring, he'd would walk Khan down, just like he did to Holt.

        Mayweather and Pacquiao's ring generalship and quickness would be too much for Bradley at this point.

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        • nujabes77
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          #54
          i actually think bradley has what it takes to outpoint/decision mayweather



          and waht makes you think he can ko bradley if he cant even ko a career fw, an old one at that

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          • daggum
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            #55
            Originally posted by pacman777
            i actually think bradley has what it takes to outpoint/decision mayweather



            and waht makes you think he can ko bradley if he cant even ko a career fw, an old one at that
            throwing all evidence, common sense, and critical thinking out?

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            • Tmann400
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              #56
              bradley has underrated power. he hurt holt with bodyshots a few times and almost took out peterson a couple of times also.

              bradley KOs khan inside 6 rounds, i dont think you realize just ho weak khans chin is, its horrible. bradley is also the better all around fighter than khan.

              ortiz would be a little more difficult based on styles, but ortiz doesnt have world class skills IMO. people think automatically because a fighter is fast or hits hard that makes them this awesome boxer, it doesnt in the least. ortiz has a nOK chin but can be hurt. bradley would circle ortiz and would just outbox him completely, id put alot of points on that too.

              people need to start realizing boxing doesnt just come down to speed, power and workrate.

              theres timing, footwork, lateral movement, being able to smother punches etc..the list goes on, i cant get my head around how one dimensional some of the boxing fans on here are.

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              • savorduhflavor
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                #57
                This is a ridiculous argument

                Khan gets pretty much zero credit for beating a shot Barrera at 135.

                Holt, Peterson, and Campbell were legit players at 140. Bradley is on his way to cleaning out 140.

                Khan fighting a blown up Marquez is not the feat you're making it out to be.

                You're seriously overselling Khan, and seriously underselling Bradley. I really don't see how it's debatable.

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                • THE REED
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  This is a ridiculous argument

                  Khan gets pretty much zero credit for beating a shot Barrera at 135.

                  Holt, Peterson, and Campbell were legit players at 140. Bradley is on his way to cleaning out 140.

                  Khan fighting a blown up Marquez is not the feat you're making it out to be.

                  You're seriously overselling Khan, and seriously underselling Bradley. I really don't see how it's debatable.
                  Pretty much everything I said.

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                  • tesla_power
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by skullduggery
                    jmm is a much bigger risk than bradley... is u dont believe that i will gladly exit this conversation

                    and just because he says hes willing to fight those two doesnt mean hes actually pushing for it... i remember some seriously luring trash talk in regard to victor ortiz
                    Khan-Jmm where Jmm is not yet proven above 135 and looks very slow at 147 ... against Khan-Bradley , the best 140lb (a very big 140lber) out there with only pac as exception if he chose to return to 140. We are not talking P4P arguments here. We are talking actual matchups. For Khan, IMO, Bradley >>> Jmm in terms of risks.

                    I will exit this conversation then. No need for you to do that. It is your opinion and I respect that.

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                    • tito_bandito
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                      #60
                      I think that if ortiz fixes his defensive skills he can UD or late KO bradley...its pretty obvious GBP wants to fix his defensive skills by assigning his next two fights with hector alatorre (who has never been ko'd) and nate campbell is his proposed next opponent...if ortiz beats campbell in the mid rounds in a devistating fashion then i think he would be either up for bradley or any top jww

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