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  • Time to re-evaluate a boxers prime

    I noticed there is this outdated mentally in boxing that boxers hit a certain age and are labelled as past their prime, or considered a shot fighter. The term is thrown around much too loosely. As all athletes have evolved over the past few decades many sports acknowledge that star athletes can remain in their primes for much longer than we give them credit for. Because as the sports involve so do their athletes. This is particularly true for any of the upper echelon of athletes that compete in their respective sports, take for example Michael Jordon, Jerry Rice, or Pete Sampras and more recently Brett Favre. All are ahtletes who dominated their sports after they had passed their supposed primes.

    Now what I don’t understand is why boxing has not been able to change this old adage that when a fighter hits a certain age that he is no longer at the top of his game, even though we are seeing more and more examples every year of fighters who are almost as great, and in some cases greater than they were in their younger days. I believe because boxing has so much history we have this reflex reaction to compare anything and everything with older eras. What we don’t take into account is things like nutrition, medicine, training methods, technology, and all the modern day advancements that allow boxer’s to train and fight harder, longer, and faster. Science has already documented that modern day human beings live longer than our predecessors. So, logic would dictate that the prime of an athlete’s life would be that much longer as well. In addition to the regular rigors of a boxers life, fighters from previous era’s fought more frequently, had inferior equipment (ie. Boxing gloves), archaic training methods, inferior nutrition, and less advanced medicine than those today. So the reality of the situation is, fighters of ALL previous eras hit their prime at a much younger age and could only sustain being in their prime for a shorter period of time. My argument is that fighters of today’s generation hit their prime’s at all different stages and with proper lifestyle stay in their prime or close to it for a much longer period of time.

    Shane Mosley, Bernard Hopkins, Vitali Klitschko, and Juan Manual Marquez are all active fighters who may not quite be in the peak of their primes but are fairly close to it. But conversely I realize a fighter like Ricky Hatton, whose lifestyle out of the ring has taken a toll on his body, may never be a top ten fighter again. Marco Antonio Barrera has taken far to much punishment to be considered even close to his prime. Others like Roy Jones relied far to much on athleticism and reflexes his prime provided him, is now a shot fighter. Pacquiao, and even Hopkins, are fighters that didn’t reach their prime until much later in their careers; with Pac currently being at his peak with no indication of slowing down.

    So I think it might be time we stop labelling fighters as being past their prime or shot fighters simply based on their age and a few tough losses post peak (ie. Mosley vs. Cotto). Some fighters who continue to train hard, have a clean lifestyle between fights, and do not take excessive punishment in the ring, remain in their prime or close to it, for longer than we care to believe. Even Michael Jordon had off nights in an 82 game season and Ali was in jail for the supposed prime years of his career. Its time to broaden our definition of what a boxer’s prime is. 40 might be the new 30.

    So what factors do you consider show a fighter is past their prime or shot? Is 40 the new 30?

  • #2
    it's genetics, you can't help it
    genetics, the diet and **** you put yoru body through in the good days

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    • #3
      I ain't reading that novel. Women are in their prime from 18 - 22, that is all i have to say about that.

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      • #4
        mosley is 39 and if you've watched prime mosley you'd know he is past it, prime mosley was very jumpy

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SpinDoctor View Post
          I ain't reading that novel. Women are in their prime from 18 - 22, that is all i have to say about that.
          bull****, women are at their prime in their 30's

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
            bull****, women are at their prime in their 30's
            sure, if you're a milfhunter.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
              bull****, women are at their prime in their 30's
              No way. I like them 18-22.. Skins soft, vag is tight, and they have no baggage....





              As for the OP. I agree. I don't think those guys are shot but they are in the back half of their primes..

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              • #8
                You have to look at it case by case and there are degrees of being "shot" as people like to say. DLH was not completely shot before he fought pac IMO. Obviously he trained to hard and was not capable of getting down to the weight effectively but not shot. Mosley is not shot right now either you can't just put an age on being shot its about how your recent fights have went and an observed dramatic decline in ability. Plus you also have to look at what attributes made the fighter as great or good as he is. Say for instance RJJ he hit the wall extremely hard because what made him great was his reflexes and speed which are know to be some of the first things to diminish with age especially taking shots for LHW's but oscar who relied on things like resilience, composure and polished conservative skill will tend to go on a bit longer. It all boils down to what you observe not how old you are.

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                • #9
                  LOL i'm mad I'm the only one who took this thread serious so far. This is a legitimate topic.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gqjohnb View Post
                    You have to look at it case by case and there are degrees of being "shot" as people like to say. DLH was not completely shot before he fought pac IMO. Obviously he trained to hard and was not capable of getting down to the weight effectively but not shot. Mosley is not shot right now either you can't just put an age on being shot its about how your recent fights have went and an observed dramatic decline in ability. Plus you also have to look at what attributes made the fighter as great or good as he is. Say for instance RJJ he hit the wall extremely hard because what made him great was his reflexes and speed which are know to be some of the first things to diminish with age especially taking shots for LHW's but oscar who relied on things like resilience, composure and polished conservative skill will tend to go on a bit longer. It all boils down to what you observe not how old you are.

                    Exactly.. Age isn't as much a factor as style is. Look at Fernando Vargas

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