Shane Mosley Dosen't Do Well Against ''Boxers''

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  • Bushbaby
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    #11
    Originally posted by michaeldokes
    Here is my take on this.

    Vernon Forrest was bigger and just knew how to beat Shane Mosley. He did it in the amateurs and he did it in the pros. That was just a style thing. Shane went on to knock out Ricardo Mayorga who knocked out Forrest, reinforcing that styles make fights.

    Winky Wright was just bigger and stronger then Shane. He pretty much pushed Shane around the ring. It wasn't that he using movement and outboxing him. Mosley did better in the rematch but he just wasn't strong enough for Wright.

    Miguel Cotto pretty much fought Shane even up. He outboxed Shane a little here and there, but he lost 3 of the last 4 rounds. No problem with Cotto getting the decision, but it was a very close fight. Heck they landed the same amount of punches.

    Ask yourself these questions. Does a 5'8" Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Winky Wright at 154 and or does he beat a prime 6' Vernon Forrest at 147. I think the answer is no. I think Floyd would beat Cotto, but it would have been a close competitive decison.

    In the fight I would make Floyd a 2 to 1 favorite just based on youth and he his a little more skilled then Shane. But Shane is a live dog. He is stronger, the harder puncher, and he is determined to do well. On paper this is Floyd's toughest fight.
    This is for the most part accurate,except for the part about Floyd beating Cotto,or Floyd beating any of the guys that beat Mosley for that matter!!The simple truth is that we don't know who Floyd can beat if he never fought them period!!

    Mosley has been beaten by Forrest because of what U stated size,long jab & so forth!!Winky is & was too big for any welterweight,period!!Cotto boxed & punched his way to a close win!!But what all those guys have that Floyd lack's is genuine size & power!!Plus Floyd doesn't stick the jab out their with authority!!Mosley uses his strength when he fights,he'll rough Floyd up,bully him & wrestle him all the while firing fast combinations!!No one should say Mosley can't bounce around & use his feet,he's quite athletic!!He'll catch up to Floyd & hurt him!!If Hatton can rough up Floyd & make him uncomfortable,theres no reason to believe Shane can't do it & much better too!!Floyd has 1 fight in 3 years & that was against a fat lightweight,Mosley is a mutha****ing beast!!

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    • tredh
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      #12
      Originally posted by cruzan mario
      This is for the most part accurate,except for the part about Floyd beating Cotto,or Floyd beating any of the guys that beat Mosley for that matter!!The simple truth is that we don't know who Floyd can beat if he never fought them period!!

      Mosley has been beaten by Forrest because of what U stated size,long jab & so forth!!Winky is & was too big for any welterweight,period!!Cotto boxed & punched his way to a close win!!But what all those guys have that Floyd lack's is genuine size & power!!Plus Floyd doesn't stick the jab out their with authority!!Mosley uses his strength when he fights,he'll rough Floyd up,bully him & wrestle him all the while firing fast combinations!!No one should say Mosley can't bounce around & use his feet,he's quite athletic!!He'll catch up to Floyd & hurt him!!If Hatton can rough up Floyd & make him uncomfortable,theres no reason to believe Shane can't do it & much better too!!Floyd has 1 fight in 3 years & that was against a fat lightweight,Mosley is a mutha****ing beast!!
      The bold is complete bull****

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        #13
        Originally posted by tehMatrix
        i think it has to do with a long jab more than anything else

        cotto beat him cuz mosley is past it
        PBF has the same reach as Forrest & Wright

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          #14
          Originally posted by michaeldokes
          Here is my take on this.

          Vernon Forrest was bigger and just knew how to beat Shane Mosley. He did it in the amateurs and he did it in the pros. That was just a style thing. Shane went on to knock out Ricardo Mayorga who knocked out Forrest, reinforcing that styles make fights.

          Winky Wright was just bigger and stronger then Shane. He pretty much pushed Shane around the ring. It wasn't that he using movement and outboxing him. Mosley did better in the rematch but he just wasn't strong enough for Wright.

          Miguel Cotto pretty much fought Shane even up. He outboxed Shane a little here and there, but he lost 3 of the last 4 rounds. No problem with Cotto getting the decision, but it was a very close fight. Heck they landed the same amount of punches.

          Ask yourself these questions. Does a 5'8" Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Winky Wright at 154 and or does he beat a prime 6' Vernon Forrest at 147. I think the answer is no. I think Floyd would beat Cotto, but it would have been a close competitive decison.

          In the fight I would make Floyd a 2 to 1 favorite just based on youth and he his a little more skilled then Shane. But Shane is a live dog. He is stronger, the harder puncher, and he is determined to do well. On paper this is Floyd's toughest fight.
          Bigger?

          Mosley has a longer reach than Forrest does..they were both Welterweights........its called boxing skills!

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            #15
            Originally posted by tredh
            The bold is complete bull****
            yes I agree...Hatton & Shane fight nothing alike

            these people on thos board

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              #16
              Originally posted by cruzan mario
              This is for the most part accurate,except for the part about Floyd beating Cotto,or Floyd beating any of the guys that beat Mosley for that matter!!The simple truth is that we don't know who Floyd can beat if he never fought them period!!

              Mosley has been beaten by Forrest because of what U stated size,long jab & so forth!!Winky is & was too big for any welterweight,period!!Cotto boxed & punched his way to a close win!!But what all those guys have that Floyd lack's is genuine size & power!!Plus Floyd doesn't stick the jab out their with authority!!Mosley uses his strength when he fights,he'll rough Floyd up,bully him & wrestle him all the while firing fast combinations!!No one should say Mosley can't bounce around & use his feet,he's quite athletic!!He'll catch up to Floyd & hurt him!!If Hatton can rough up Floyd & make him uncomfortable,theres no reason to believe Shane can't do it & much better too!!Floyd has 1 fight in 3 years & that was against a fat lightweight,Mosley is a mutha****ing beast!!
              Long Jab? Mosley has a longer reach than Forrest

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                #17
                ODLH smirks

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by michaeldokes

                  Ask yourself these questions. Does a 5'8" Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Winky Wright at 154 and or does he beat a prime 6' Vernon Forrest at 147. I think the answer is no. I think Floyd would beat Cotto, but it would have been a close competitive decison.

                  In the fight I would make Floyd a 2 to 1 favorite just based on youth and he his a little more skilled then Shane. But Shane is a live dog. He is stronger, the harder puncher, and he is determined to do well. On paper this is Floyd's toughest fight.
                  De La Hoya is an inch and a half shorter than Forrest & has the same reach.....

                  Oscar de La hoya is a far better boxer than Vernon Forest man...

                  Williams had a 3 inch longer height advantage over Quintana & a 10 inch reach advantage and he was STILL able to OUTBOX Williams through 12 rounds....

                  Forrest lost to Mayorga TWICE....how the **** could he beat Mayweather?

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                    #19
                    forrest would have taken pbf's head off! r.i.p. vernon.....

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                      #20
                      i think Floyd will take Mosley. I rewatched Mosley/margarito recently, and Mosley still looked a bit old. Margarito was taylor made just going straight forward while Mosley waited and pounced on him. With an additional year off, I bet he'll look rusty.

                      Its still gonna be a snooze fest with floyd doing alot of backpedaling. I doubt we'll see floyd try to fight in the pocket or even go toe to toe with Mosley.

                      I expect floyd boxing the safest fight, with both boxers looking clean without a sweat in the 12th, and the fans will be left with a frusratated "wtf" look.

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