Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Will Fight Mayweather-Mosley Winner, Says Roach

[BuckToothed]

none...but he did do it......get over it.......ur still on here whinging like a the little scrawny girl u prob are......

Bottom line is he asked Pac to take a $50 million dollar blood test....Pac said no.....dragging his image through the mud in the process, when a simple yeah...no problem ***** would have seen floyd roundly criticised.

What right do doping agencies have to test Lance Armstrong 5 x more than any other rider............none..........they clearly discriminate against him, but he still lets them because if he didn't it would raise questions about his victories being legit............

Floyd signed to fight shane.....something u were happy to say would never occur. It becomes clearer with each passing day Pac and Freddie Roach avoided a showdown in March.

Says who? you? *****s?

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[Boss Don]

You're missing the point, boxing has weight divisions for a reason. I'm strictly referring to fighting within your own weight division, specifically the welterweight division.

Just because two individuals are ranked highly on the P4P list, doesn't mean that they should fight(weight divisions for a reason)--flawed logic.

Ok if weight classes are so important then how is Pacquiao the champion of a weight he never even fought at?

How can you say two pounds made a difference when Mayweather fought Marquez but it didn't when Pacquiao fought Cotto? Please let me know

[switchsouthpaw]

[QUOTE=lskjersey;7421089]Well here are some facts for you.

Fact! Cotto was offered to fight Mayweather and his uncle said he was not ready. This was when both fighters where at 140 lbs and when they where at 147

FACT CHECK: OF COURSE HE WASN'T READY, WHICH IS WHY FLOYD WANTED IT THEN. TWO--FLOYD NEVER MENTIONED COTTO'S NAME WHEN HE BECAME SUCCESSFUL AT WELTERWEIGHT, SEEMS LIKE A FLOYD MOVE.

Fact! Bob Arum has avoided sending any of his welters after Mayweather

YOU'RE RIGHT AND THAT HAS MORE TO DO WITH KEEPING THE MONEY IN-HOUSE.

Fact! Mosley was supposed to fight Mayweather befor Oscar. He gave oscar a 58 million dollar payday.

FACT CHECK: UNDERSTANDABLE FLOYD WENT AFTER THE MONEY FIGHT (HE'S BEEN AT THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT SINCE 2005)

Fact! Floyd's 2nd and third fight at welter he came into the ring at 147 and 148 the night of the fight against the number 2 welter Zab Judah and the number 1 welter Carlos Baldimir, who regardless of what YOU may think where the Undisputed and former Undisputed welterwight champions of the WORLD the whole world Craig the whole world.

FACT CHECK: JUDAH ALSO HADN'T GROWN INTO A REAL WELTERWEIGHT AND ADD TO THAT HIS PROPENSITY FOR BEING A TALENTED, UNDERACHIEVING HEADCASE AND WITH A MEDIOCRE RECORD AT WELTERWEIGHT SPEAKS VOLUMES. BALDOMIR GOT LUCKY...END OF STORY.

that means during these fights he was still naturally a jr welter. the only welterweight fight he actualy fought as a true welter was his last fight.

FACT: HIS LAST FIGHT HE NATURALLY FOUGHT A LIGHTWEIGHT WHILE HE CAME INTO THE RING A WELTERWEIGHT(YOUR OWN WORDS)...AND HE GETS CREDIT FOR THIS BECAUSE?....

befor he retired floyd walked around at 147lbs. Hatton walks around 160+ DLH walks around close to 170 Clotty walks around at about 160 Mosley is does as well.

FACT: TAKING HATTON/ODLH OUT OF THE EQUATION AND BRINGING IN MOSLEY/CLOTTEY AS AN EXAMPLE STILL DOES NOT BELIE THE POINT THAT MAYWEATHER FIGHTS AT THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT AND HAS SINCE 2005.

so with that out the way.

Pacman fought DLH lower than he'd ever been in 7 years-was not even ranked as a welter
WHICH I ALSO GIVE HIM NO CREDIT FOR. IT WAS ALSO HIS FIRST FIGHT AT WELTERWEIGHT. FLOYD'S FIRST FIGHT AT WELTERWEIGHT WAS IN 2005 AGAINST SHARMBE MITCHELL

Pacman Fought Cotto who was 2 lbs under his best weight at weigh in

YES BUT COTTO WAS A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT/RANKED FIGHTING WITHIN THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT, CONTRAST THAT WITH MAYWEATHER'S LAST FIGHT, A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT THAT NIGHT ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN WORDS FOUGHT A LIGHTWEIGHT WHO DRANK TOO MANY PROTEIN SHAKES TO PUT ON WEIGHT.

Now fighting Clotty who has lost to all the other good welters save for Judah and the to me was questionable as Clotty got away with alot of dirty tactics.

I LIKE HOW YOU GIVE THE UNDERACHIEVER OF ALL UNDERACHIEVERS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT LOL. BUT OK I WILL STIPULATE JUDAH.

so you want to compare. within his first three fights mayweather was undisputed welter champion. in his first three fights he took out number two and number one.
UPON CLOSER EXAMINATION OF THIS FACT, IT'S CORRECT SAVE FOR ONE THING...CONTEXT.

Pac has Fought at welter twice now he fought an unranked and one top five but skipped number 2 Mosley and the former king Mayweather. Mayweather is number 2 now Mosley is number 3 now for his third fight pac is fighting number FIVE.

PAC WILL HAVE TWO RANKED LEGITIMATE WELTERWEIGHTS UNDER HIS BELT, WHILE HAVING ONLY BEEN AT WELTERWEIGHT A YEAR. MOST FIGHT FANS INCLUDING BOXING SCRIBES LIKE DOUGIE FISCHER, BERT SUGAR AND LARRY MERCHANT UNANIMOUSLY CONSIDER THIS FLOYD'S FIRST TRUE LEGITIMATE FIGHT WITHIN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION.

[jtiger78]

mayweather and pac have already won thier upcoming matches, with the money riding on that fight cmon .... It sux though because i would have rather seen pac/mosley.

truth!!!!!! And the reason they are not fighting march 13th is because instead of killing the cow the higher ups wanted to milk it first...

[smoothrider]

tight

Well here are some facts for you.

Fact! Cotto was offered to fight Mayweather and his uncle said he was not ready. This was when both fighters where at 140 lbs and when they where at 147

Fact! Bob Arum has avoided sending any of his welters after Mayweather

Fact! Mosley was supposed to fight Mayweather befor Oscar. He gave oscar a 58 million dollar payday.

Fact! Floyd's 2nd and third fight at welter he came into the ring at 147 and 148 the night of the fight against the number 2 welter Zab Judah and the number 1 welter Carlos Baldimir, who regardless of what YOU may think where the Undisputed and former Undisputed welterwight champions of the WORLD the whole world Craig the whole world.

that means during these fights he was still naturally a jr welter. the only welterweight fight he actualy fought as a true welter was his last fight.

befor he retired floyd walked around at 147lbs. Hatton walks around 160+ DLH walks around close to 170 Clotty walks around at about 160 Mosley is does as well.

so with that out the way.

Pacman fought DLH lower than he'd ever been in 7 years-was not even ranked as a welter
Pacman Fought Cotto who was 2 lbs under his best weight at weigh in
Now fighting Clotty who has lost to all the other good welters save for Judah and the to me was questionable as Clotty got away with alot of dirty tactics.

so you want to compare. within his first three fights mayweather was undisputed welter champion. in his first three fights he took out number two and number one.

Pac has Fought at welter twice now he fought an unranked and one top five but skipped number 2 Mosley and the former king Mayweather. Mayweather is number 2 now Mosley is number 3 now for his third fight pac is fighting number FIVE.

you wanna compare resumes well there you have it.

that was right on time, could'nt be done any clearer light camera action,
CHECK MATE

[pugay_kamay]

Pac would retire if that hapenned..........and if he is willing to random blood test if it is adopted as commission rules why not just do it anyway???

Here we go again...

[switchsouthpaw]

ok if weight classes are so important then how is pacquiao the champion of a weight he never even fought at?

How can you say two pounds made a difference when mayweather fought marquez but it didn't when pacquiao fought cotto? Please let me know

2lbs referring to a guy who had been a natural welterweight for a few years, versus marquez...who was a lightweight only a few months before that...do you really not recognize the difference when you view it in context?

[pugay_kamay]

For your sig:


I Roger Mellie acknowledge i am a bias Floyd hater with no real boxing knowledge. However i have been schooled by check hook and as such i must admit FMJ is a talented boxer who was clearly ducked by Manny Pacquiao.

Furthermore i think it is highly suspect Manny Pacquiao would not agree to random blood testing and his behaviour is highly su****ious!!!

Damn, it's like fantasy here...

[Cash Cow]

I'm not saying it shouldn't happen now. I'm just saying Manny doesn't have necessarily abide by those rules because it is not sanctioned by the commission. If Floyd tells Manny to bend over, you think he's gonna do it?

so is it about the company doing the RANDOm test or the actual random test themselves?

That makes no sense

[smoothrider]

good try

[QUOTE=switchsouthpaw;7421199]

Well here are some facts for you.

Fact! Cotto was offered to fight Mayweather and his uncle said he was not ready. This was when both fighters where at 140 lbs and when they where at 147

FACT CHECK: OF COURSE HE WASN'T READY, WHICH IS WHY FLOYD WANTED IT THEN. TWO--FLOYD NEVER MENTIONED COTTO'S NAME WHEN HE BECAME SUCCESSFUL AT WELTERWEIGHT.

Fact! Bob Arum has avoided sending any of his welters after Mayweather

YOU'RE RIGHT AND THAT HAS MORE TO DO WITH KEEPING THE MONEY IN-HOUSE.

Fact! Mosley was supposed to fight Mayweather befor Oscar. He gave oscar a 58 million dollar payday.

FACT CHECK: UNDERSTANDABLE FLOYD WENT AFTER THE MONEY FIGHT (HE'S BEEN AT WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT SINCE 2005)

Fact! Floyd's 2nd and third fight at welter he came into the ring at 147 and 148 the night of the fight against the number 2 welter Zab Judah and the number 1 welter Carlos Baldimir, who regardless of what YOU may think where the Undisputed and former Undisputed welterwight champions of the WORLD the whole world Craig the whole world.

FACT CHECK: JUDAH ALSO HADN'T GROWN INTO A REAL WELTERWEIGHT AND ADD TO THAT HIS PROPENSITY FOR BEING A TALENTED, UNDERACHIEVING HEADCASE AND WITH A MEDIOCRE RECORD AT WELTERWEIGHT SPEAKS VOLUMES. BALDOMIR GOT LUCKY...END OF STORY.

that means during these fights he was still naturally a jr welter. the only welterweight fight he actualy fought as a true welter was his last fight.

FACT: HIS LAST FIGHT HE NATURALLY FOUGHT A LIGHTWEIGHT WHILE HE CAME IN TO THE RING A WELTERWEIGHT...AND HE GETS CREDIT FOR THIS BECAUSE?....

befor he retired floyd walked around at 147lbs. Hatton walks around 160+ DLH walks around close to 170 Clotty walks around at about 160 Mosley is does as well.

FACT: TAKING HATTON/ODLH OUT OF THE EQUATION AND BRINGING IN MOSLEY/CLOTTEY AS AN EXAMPLE STILL DOES NOT BELIE THE POINT THAT MAYWEATHER FIGHTS AT THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT AND HAS SINCE 2005.

so with that out the way.

Pacman fought DLH lower than he'd ever been in 7 years-was not even ranked as a welter
WHICH I ALSO GIVE HIM NO CREDIT FOR

Pacman Fought Cotto who was 2 lbs under his best weight at weigh in

YES BUT COTTO WAS A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT/RANKED FIGHTING WITHIN THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT, CONTRAST THAT WITH MAYWEATHER'S LAST FIGHT, A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT THAT NIGHT ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN WORDS FOUGHT A LIGHTWEIGHT WHO DRANK TOO MANY PROTEIN SHAKES TO PUT ON WEIGHT.

Now fighting Clotty who has lost to all the other good welters save for Judah and the to me was questionable as Clotty got away with alot of dirty tactics.

I LIKE HOW YOU THE UNDERACHIEVER OF ALL UNDERACHIEVERS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT LOL. BUT OK I WILL STIPULATE JUDAH.

so you want to compare. within his first three fights mayweather was undisputed welter champion. in his first three fights he took out number two and number one.
UPON CLOSER EXAMINATION OF THIS FACT, IT'S CORRECT SAVE FOR ONE THING...CONTEXT.

Pac has Fought at welter twice now he fought an unranked and one top five but skipped number 2 Mosley and the former king Mayweather. Mayweather is number 2 now Mosley is number 3 now for his third fight pac is fighting number FIVE.

PAC WILL HAVE TWO RANKED LEGITIMATE WELTERWEIGHTS UNDER HIS BELT, WHILE HAVING ONLY BEEN AT WELTERWEIGHT A YEAR. MOST FIGHT FANS INCLUDING BOXING SCRIBES LIKE DOUGIE FISCHER, BERT SUGAR AND LARRY MERCHANT UNANIMOUSLY CONSIDER THIS FLOYD'S FIRST TRUE LEGITIMATE FIGHT WITHIN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION.

good try player, but not quite good enough . but i give you and a for effort. but when its said and done, the Catch weight champ does'nt measure up