Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Will Fight Mayweather-Mosley Winner, Says Roach

[FightDoctor.]

You have to be mindful that these days fighters are getting caught left to right taking illegal substances. But have you ever noticed the big attractions of the sport don't ever get caught they tell on themselves. look diaz this past weekend for strikeforce left the building without taking his mandatory test. #2 never put an extraordinary athlete on PED's. why? would you have fought Mike Tyson if you believed he was on PED's(example only). then why Pac? you must test for everything. this is money you dealing with. millions.

[simpac]

Floyd blessed? No way! He dont want to level the playing field? He made sure he come overweight against JMM. At Pac or Mosley fight he want to make sure that they are clean so he can use pretty well his xyclo

[jtiger78]

roach talks about floyd so much i forget hes fighting clottey... if they know hes going to demand a random blood test and they say they are not going to do it why do they keep bringing up the fight? they never wanted the fight in march in the first place its obvious

[AllEyesOpen]

You have to be mindful that these days fighters are getting caught left to right taking illegal substances. But have you ever noticed the big attractions of the sport don't ever get caught they tell on themselves. look diaz this past weekend for strikeforce left the building without taking his mandatory test. #2 never put an extraordinary athlete on PED's. why? would you have fought Mike Tyson if you believed he was on PED's(example only). then why Pac? you must test for everything. this is money you dealing with. millions.

Not to mention that Boxing is the only sport where an unfair advantage is a matter of life and death.

[switchsouthpaw]

Not many people i know have any clue about boxing. Most actually barely know about these 2 fighters. Here in Australia the majority of the public really only knows Danny Green and Mundine. When i tell them of this situation this is how i explain it:

- One guy asked another to subject himself to a better testing stanadard, because quite frankly boxings standard sux. He said no....he gave reasons such as he was afraid of needles, superstitious and it weakened him. He requested a 30 day window of no random blood testing. He would not accept a 14 day compromise. Oh also he stood to make $50 mil by agreeing to the testing.


I get the same response every single time by the unbias man on the street......that dude not agreeing to the testing has something to hide.

Only a Floyd hater or Pac fan would look at all the bull**** that happened and say it was somehow Floyd who killed the fight. The provision for random testing was in the contract from day one. Freddie Roach said it would be no problem and that they have floyd running scared-----> i will post the link of those words coming from his mouth if u need the proof. What changed??

If Floyd never really wanted to fight Pac...why didn't they call his 14 day bluff. The offer was on the table...another thing the impartial mediator said Arum basically lied about.

It became a bigger issue once Floyd accepted all there demands that were designed to kill the fight. They were not banking on Floyd being so easy going with the negotiations.

It does not matter what floyds motivations were when he asked.........or the commission rules...it was a contractual term that he wanted and Pac rejected.....plain and simple. He rejected a $50 mil payday because he didn't want to take random blood tests with a 14 day cut-off!!!!

It all comes down to track records, if Floyd wasn't so full of **** then maybe people would believe him. When Merchant challenged Floyd to in turn challenge himself, he cried at the podium and retired.

When Max Kellerman asked him a question in regards to fighting a legitimate welterweight, he bogarts the mic and tries to control the interview. The guy clearly has control issues, as evidenced by his own carefully hand selected opponents in recent years...track record. I bring this up constantly and you keep ignoring these facts...

1) How long has Floyd been at welterweight? 5 years and he is just now fighting a real bona fide ranked welterweight<----CONTEXT
2) How long has Pac been at Welterweight? 1 year (and he retired ODLH,beat Cotto and is fighting Clottey, two of which are/were highly ranked welterweights)

So when you look at it from that perspective, the guy who has been there for 5 years, is only now fighting a top flight authentic welterweight. The guy who has been there only a year, has already fought one top flight welterweight; albeit a deteriorated version of himself in Cotto and is now fighting Clottey.

[switchsouthpaw]

The problem is that it is difficult to presume his innocence given boxings testing standards and the actions of the man himself.

Why would an innocent man who is being wrongly accused not seek to prove his innocence??

Okay rephrase that same question...WHY SHOULD HE HAVE TO?

[jtiger78]

floyd never avoided Shane, mayweather promotions offered Shane the same fight when Floyd fought Delahoya, but Shane turned down the fight , his statement was I want to go on vacation with my family in California. So Golden boy promotions took the fight. thats how delahoya and money end up fighting. Shane didnt want to fight Maony then. now he has a belt and he wants to get a big payday, so he calls out the two hottest names in boxing, but Money will fight him, but Pac will never fight him,to much blood will be on the dance foor randomly.

dont forget shane said his tooth was hurting also.!! lol

[switchsouthpaw]

But Floyd is not the only one who thinks Pac is on something

You mean the syndrome known as "you've been more successful than me, therefore you must be on something"?

Paulie Maliagnaggi in examining his own words and logic, "no welterweight can stand there in front of Cotto and take flush punches the way Pac did, without being on something"...ok fair enough. Vargas was taking nandralone when he fought Oscar, how well did his chin hold up that night?

[FightDoctor.]

When mayweather beat mosley they will consider him as one of the greatest. why he is a true welterweight. when he beat pac . no he was just a blown up lightweight not a true ww. you was supposed to beat him. just like ricky hatton. excuses will cloud the publics perception why, to discredit him. watch, after he beat pac, watch, after the fight.Watch how they treat mayweather.

[check hook]

It all comes down to track records, if Floyd wasn't so full of **** then maybe people would believe him. When Merchant challenged Floyd to in turn challenge himself, he cried at the podium and retired.

When Max Kellerman asked him a question in regards to fighting a legitimate welterweight, he bogarts the mic and tries to control the interview. The guy clearly has control issues, as evidence by his own carefully hand selected opponents in recent years...track record. I bring this up constantly and you keep ignoring these facts...

1) How long has Floyd been at welterweight? 5 years And he is just now fighting a real bona fide ranked welterweight<----CONTEXT
2) How long has Pac been at Welterweight? 1 year (and he retired ODLH,beat Cotto and is fighting Clottey, two of which are/were highly ranked welterweights.


So when you look at it from that perspective, the guy who has been there for 5 years, is only now fighting a top flight authentic welterweight. The guy who has been there only a year, has already fought one top flight welterweight; albeit a deteriorated version of himself in Cotto and is now fighting Clottey.

You are off topic....all of that (even if it all was 100% true) is completely irrelevant to our conversation.

All i want to know is this......in your (unbias) view was it Floyd who backed out of a March showdown with Pac or was it Pac???