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  • Real talk Pac has cherry picked and beaten fighters the blueprint was already laid out on how to beat. Mayweather is undefeated and has given very good fighters their first loss. Mayweather came back and shutdown the man Manny avoided after he gave Manny hell twice now he's fighting the best welter-wt in the world currently. This trumps anything Pacroid can possibly do now their only recourse is to try to down play it like fighting Shane aint nothing. The fact is Pacroid hasn't fought an unscathed fighter since Marquez so tell me how in the hell can he even be mentioned as fighter of the decade?

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    • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      what is better to beat a fighter that is undefeated and looking strong or to beat a fighter thats pretty much lost twice and is looking like **** and a 4to 1 underdog??? i mean really guy lets be honest here.
      With your logic, are you going to discredit Mayweather if he beats Mosley who has 5 loses and have not fought for almost a year. Try to use some logic and be more subjective, i can understand you're bias towards Floyd but don't get lost in your own illogical thinking when you're trying to make a point but you're not making any sense whatsoever, and like you said, be honest. BTW, having an undefeated record doesn't mean **** if you have fought low quality fighters especially ones that is not in the same league or even worst, not in the same weight division. Fighting and dominating a lightweight that had to move up two weight classes is not impressive or even worth mentioning.

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      • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
        Of course it's lower....he just got there!?!?!!? Pac's first entry into the welterweight division was ODLH and Cotto and he destroyed both and now he's moving on to Clottey.

        Mayweather's first entry into the welterweight division was Sharmbe Mitchell. In Pac's third fight he's fighting a ranked and capable fighter who has been a welterweight for years. Who was Mayweather's second and third fight at welterweight?<-----answer this question
        i could care less about mayweather but hes fought judah,delahoya,baldomir,michell, weak welters yes, but pac is definitley not a featherweight beating up welterweihghts, the guy grew in to the weight class he is a welterweight a solid welterweight, in fact at fight night he been weighing the same since the morales fights above 140something pnds, so you put it into context and put the media hype aside and you have pac a solid welterweight competing at welterweight. all these other awards some of them are due, some arent,to me they are very premature. since delahoya left boxing, its lacked a hero so pac is the one filling that void as far as the goat comparisons and all these accolades they are a bit too much and way overblown.pac at welter iisnt greater than mayweather or mosley that is still in the works.

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        • Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
          With your logic, are you going to discredit Mayweather if he beats Mosley who has 5 loses and have not fought for almost a year. Try to use some logic and be more subjective, i can understand you're bias towards Floyd but don't get lost in your own illogical thinking when you're trying to make a point but you're not making any sense whatsoever, and like you said, be honest. BTW, having an undefeated record doen't mean **** if you have fought low quality fighter especially ones that is not in the same league or even worst, not in the same weight division. Fighting and dominating a lightweight that had to move up two weight classes is not impressive or even worth mentioning.
          so all the fighters cotto fought while staying undefeated makes the margarito win less impressive than pac win because pac beat him after two horrible showings in a row? that makes no sense. molsey is an exception, mosley is 38 and nobody gets the full ful credit if they beat him for that reason , however mosley hasnt been beaten down twice in a row or three times.mosley is an exception hes on a winning streak not losing streak, so thats not illogical its common knowledge.the level of comp mosley has fought at litweight or even welter puts pacs to shame, and mayweather also, based on them fighting guys closer to their prime especially mosley.

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          • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
            i could care less about mayweather but hes fought judah,delahoya,baldomir,michell, weak welters yes, but pac is definitley not a featherweight beating up welterweihghts, the guy grew in to the weight class he is a welterweight a solid welterweight, in fact at fight night he been weighing the same since the morales fights above 140something pnds, so you put it into context and put the media hype aside and you have pac a solid welterweight competing at welterweight. all these other awards some of them are due, some arent,to me they are very premature. since delahoya left boxing, its lacked a hero so pac is the one filling that void as far as the goat comparisons and all these accolades they are a bit too much and way overblown.pac at welter iisnt greater than mayweather or mosley that is still in the works.
            When you examine the length of time each fighter has resided in a given division and what they've accomplished in that division, the nod clearly goes to Pac.

            Hatton was beaten at welterweight and prior to that went life and death with Collazo, but at jr.welterweight no one had ever done to him what Pac was able to do, that was and remains impressive.

            I give Pac no credit for ODLH, he was a dead man walking that night, but fighting Cotto and then Clottey is very, very impressive. Since 2005 Mayweather hasn't gotten in the ring with either of those men and he's been there for 5 years...speaks volumes. For Mayweather's comeback fight he could have fought Collazo or even Berto, a lower top 10 ranked welterweight, but again he errs on the side of caution and fights a lightweight.
            Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 02-02-2010, 03:26 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
              Real talk Pac has cherry picked and beaten fighters the blueprint was already laid out on how to beat. Mayweather is undefeated and has given very good fighters their first loss. Mayweather came back and shutdown the man Manny avoided after he gave Manny hell twice now he's fighting the best welter-wt in the world currently. This trumps anything Pacroid can possibly do now their only recourse is to try to down play it like fighting Shane aint nothing. The fact is Pacroid hasn't fought an unscathed fighter since Marquez so tell me how in the hell can he even be mentioned as fighter of the decade?

              You have to be delusional and ignorant to think that the JMM that Manny fought is the same JMM that Floyd fought. Big difference when Manny fought JMM as a true strong 135lbs compare to a FAT and SLOW 144lbs that Floyd fought. One, JMM has never fought above 135lbs, let alone 144lbs. And how the **** can you say Manny avoided JMM if he had fought him twice and knocked JMM down 4 times in two fights. Think bro, think. Another thing, how is Manny cherry picking if DLH called him out and Cotto is Manny's first real and true WW that had only 1 loss and that Floyd avoided and used a lame excuse that Cotto lives in Puerto Rico. Try again.

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              • Originally posted by King22 View Post
                It is about black and white im not racist but thats how it is in the real world. Most white people don't like Floyd but praise Pacquiao true story. So if you got 30 writers 10 are black and 20 are white who do you think gonna win?

                I mean you talk about Ali but do you know how bad Ali was hated on before people said he was the greatest? Do you know they used to say Ali couldn't even compete with the ATG heavyweights? I mean they did Ali wrong he gets his respect now but don't think it was always like that.
                its funny you say your not racist but your favorite fighters are all blcakc

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                • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                  Real talk Pac has cherry picked and beaten fighters the blueprint was already laid out on how to beat. Mayweather is undefeated and has given very good fighters their first loss. Mayweather came back and shutdown the man Manny avoided after he gave Manny hell twice now he's fighting the best welter-wt in the world currently. This trumps anything Pacroid can possibly do now their only recourse is to try to down play it like fighting Shane aint nothing. The fact is Pacroid hasn't fought an unscathed fighter since Marquez so tell me how in the hell can he even be mentioned as fighter of the decade?
                  pac deserves most popular fighter of the decade, best fighter is a big stretch.

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                  • Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
                    You have to be delusional and ignorant to think that the JMM that Manny fought is the same JMM that Floyd fought. Big difference when Manny fought JMM as a true strong 135lbs compare to a FAT and SLOW 144lbs that Floyd fought. One, JMM has never fought above 135lbs, let alone 144lbs. And how the **** can you say Manny avoided JMM if he had fought him twice and knocked JMM down 4 times in two fights. Think bro, think. Another thing, how is Manny cherry picking if DLH called him out and Cotto is Manny's first real and true WW that had only 1 loss and that Floyd avoided and used a lame excuse that Cotto lives in Puerto Rico. Try again.

                    Exactly and this is precisely why I keep mentioning the word "CONTEXT".

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                    • Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
                      You have to be delusional and ignorant to think that the JMM that Manny fought is the same JMM that Floyd fought. Big difference when Manny fought JMM as a true strong 135lbs compare to a FAT and SLOW 144lbs that Floyd fought. One, JMM has never fought above 135lbs, let alone 144lbs. And how the **** can you say Manny avoided JMM if he had fought him twice and knocked JMM down 4 times in two fights. Think bro, think. Another thing, how is Manny cherry picking if DLH called him out and Cotto is Manny's first real and true WW that had only 1 loss and that Floyd avoided and used a lame excuse that Cotto lives in Puerto Rico. Try again.
                      pacs early flash knockdowns are the ONLY REASON pac got the nod.u take those early knockdowns away and ur left with a lopsided ass beating. its true jmm had no buisness at welterweight, but the loss was so thorough its got to make you think what mayweather would do to pac, its pretty safe to say he may beat pac easily if jmm gave pac hell.cotto win aint a **** cotto was hot after margs, no one can say otherwise , clottey beat cottos ass only to get robbed with more lame judge excuses. really at welter pac just keep working over losers, u have to admit that. those guys at one time were the best in their time but not when pac beat em no way.

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