Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Pressed To Sign Waiver For Past Drug Tests

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  • Eaner0919
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    #81
    Originally posted by Black Dynamite
    Oscar is retired.
    Nobody cares rather he was on PED's or not.
    Test Pacquiao.
    Look at the 1st and 2nd JMM fight. He looks very different, look at his head and face.

    In all honesty I like Pacquiao and Mayweather but I strongly believe that for him to clear his name he has to take a "random" drug test.
    actually maybe some should care as to whether he was on PEDs or not for a few reasons

    1. it will show a hypocritical pattern he is developing in making Manny the scapegoat in all this.

    2. the state of the sport actually may hinge on how we as a whole come out of it. We can no longer state "boxing will survive this" if people look to our sport and see dirty at every angle. If PEDs are an issue it is just yet another log on the fire.

    3. a view I like to bring up is how maybe the talent and those who "can" seperated themselves falsly by doing this. Think about it, most of those suspected or found to have used can afford the type of costs that come with this. Those who cannot simply stay with what they can do. This could create a false seperation in talent if PEDs are indeed found to be more commonplace than first suspect in boxing

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    • Pony Boy
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      #82
      And this confirms what?

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #83
        After it was clear that SSM used EPO in his win over DLH I wondered why Oscar didn't come out being angry because he was cheated. Instead he said it was something in the past.

        Now it could be because:

        1: Shane is a good friend that he didn't want to hurt.
        2: Shane works with GBP so it would have been bad for business
        3: Oscar isn't bothered at all by the legacy he leaves.

        or

        4: Oscar was on roids himself and further investigation into Mosley would leave him in an ackward position and would be fatal for his business if he was exposed as a hypocritical liar.

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        • DocG
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          #84
          Originally posted by Chups
          oh shyet, it gets more interesting.

          They'll find out in the end it's only Pacquiao that's clean...
          Mayweather vs Mosely will undergo random-style olympic blood and urine drug testing....

          Doesn't MayRunner realize tha aside from detecting PEDs it also detects Xylocaine?.....

          Mayrunner is digging his own grave.....now we will definitely know and proof he uses xylocaine on his brittle hands!!!!

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          • p4p-champ
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            #85
            If Oscar gets is dirty of something and it goes public, this will turn into the whole Major League Baseball fiasco. More and more fighters will get exposed and when its all said and done, boxing as a whole will be forced to implement more stringent random style Olympic drug testing.

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            • Iceta Lives
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              #86
              How come Chicano79Us hasn't made a post in this thread yet? Ha. He's my dude though. Hauser does a good job of calling GBP, but it seems like he's totally pro Top Rank and he never calls Arum out on any of the garbage ass **** that he does like putting John Duddy on the Pac-Clottey undercard. That's just one example.

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              • Laborer
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                #87
                Originally posted by El Talegon
                De La Hoya is clean. their is no doubt about that.
                are you being sarcastic? do you have the results in your hands that said oscar is innocent. coz if a '*******' claims with such certainty that Pac is clean, haters would be jumping on his throat in no time, screaming, "idiot"!

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                • Ray*
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  They should come to a compromise. Oscar release his results; Manny take the random blood and urine testing with no cut-off dates.
                  Funny how all the Pac apologists are demanding Oscar release the info. Not that I disagree. But I thought the commission was holy and stood for what's right, thus we should abide by their rules instead of inventing our own. Would that be the same commission that hid Oscar's medical records?
                  Thats a great deal!!! Oscar sign the waiver and Pac take the random test no cut off dates. And yeah thats the same commission NSAC who probably hide oscar de la hoya's test.

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                  • KJ
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Pony Boy
                    And since Pandora's box was openned, it's now time to clean up the sport.
                    Why? Does a clean sport make better fights?

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                    • BattlingNelson
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Ray`
                      Thats a great deal!!! Oscar sign the waiver and Pac take the random test no cut off dates. And yeah thats the same commission NSAC who probably hide oscar de la hoya's test.
                      Why is that a good idea? I see no link between Oscar's results of yesteryear and Pac signing an agreement to do olympic style testing. How can these two incidents be linked in one agreement?

                      Make no mistake: I'm all for the release of Oscar's data as well as stricter and random out-of-competition testing, I just see it as seperate issues.

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