Who punches harder at Welterweight?

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  • Calilloyd
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    #41
    Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
    Thanks bruh, pretty sure that wasn't only time I saw him hurt either.
    Only thing shown there is that he got knocked down. He got up and won too. He wasn't anywhere near as hurt in that fight as he was with Mosley. I don't know how you can't see that.

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    • one-Punch
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      #42
      I actually think Pacquiao hits harder. Just because Mosley is a larger WW, doesn't mean he hits harder. Some people can have really dense muscle and be as strong as a guy who is larger then them.

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      • Calilloyd
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        #43
        Originally posted by jreckoning
        There are some other fights too.

        It's like the Librado Andrade thing before Bute knocked him down.

        People develop these myths about guys which aren't true, simply because they've never lost by ko, but people just look at the records and not the actual fights and how hurt they were at times.

        I mean nearly everyone gets hurt no doubt.
        It's nota question of whether Margarito has been hurt. it's a question of whether anybody has ever put him on ***** street like Mosley did. And the answer is no. That knockdown he suffered early in his career was just that. A knockdown that Margarito quickly got up from. He also won. Margarito barely beat the count after his first knockdown against Mosley and the second knockdown put him away. I don't see the similiarities betweeen those two fights unless I'm missing something.

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        • johnle43
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          #44
          p4p pac might be the harder hitter but at welter its shane.

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          • Tsukiyomi
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            #45
            Originally posted by Calilloyd
            It's nota question of whether Margarito has been hurt. it's a question of whether anybody has ever put him on ***** street like Mosley did. And the answer is no. That knockdown he suffered early in his career was just that. A knockdown that Margarito quickly got up from. He also won. Margarito barely beat the count after his first knockdown against Mosley and the second knockdown put him away. I don't see the similiarities betweeen those two fights unless I'm missing something.
            My point was he had been hurt before which you denied. I'm not trying to discredit Mosley, I'm just trying to add the proper perspective. Mosley is a strong puncher, but he's the kind who breaks guys down.

            Not sure it is worth debating too furiously, just stating my opinion and view of the matter.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Parody
              Pacquiao or Mosley?

              Pacquiao made Oscar quit and has a stoppage over Cotto

              Mosley has stopped Margarito and KO'd Mayorga

              Opinions?


              Mosley.......nut i wait with interest to see what Manny can do with Clottey......

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                #47
                Originally posted by iHateThePacMan
                didnt cotto say pacquiao hits the hardest or did anyone forget


                See now this is where the PED accusations get some credibility in many peoples eyes.....SSM was a much bigger puncher in the lower weights (135) than Pac was.....look at Shanes KO ratio @ 135.......Pac was a hard puncher at in the lower weights but not a devastating puncher....it was the accumulation of lefts that would eventually get him a middle or late rd KO or TKO.....now at welter he is suddenly a devastaing one punch KO artist...??

                I could believe it if he didn't run away from $50 mil because of random blood tests....

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                • Panchito
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                  #48
                  SSM. But someone needs to call Cotto to confirm.

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                  • tanibanana
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                    #49
                    The question will be answered pretty well on March 14, 2010.

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #50
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                      Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
                      My point was he had been hurt before which you denied.[/B] I'm not trying to discredit Mosley, I'm just trying to add the proper perspective. Mosley is a strong puncher, but he's the kind who breaks guys down.

                      Not sure it is worth debating too furiously, just stating my opinion and view of the matter.
                      That's not true and this what I said:

                      Originally Posted by Calilloyd
                      Mosley has knocked out bigger fighters like Mayorga and Vargas with one punch. He was also the first fighter to seriously hurt Margarito. I really don't think it's hard choice when you compare them head to head.




                      Margarito was not seriously hurt after that knockdown against Perez. He got up quickly and his legs were steady. He was seriously hurt against Mosley. And I still have yet to see you come up with any other fight where he was in that situation before.

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