Very good article that adresses a real issue that needs to be delt with. I mean in th last couple of months we have seen some really bad decisions that not aonly take away from yhe athletes that get cheated out off a victory but also from the sport that I enjoy so much to watch. I mean Diaz/Maliggnaggi I, Funeka/Guzman and now this. Soemthing really needs to be done.
Comments Thread For: Shay Day: Robberies, Bad Scores: Time For a Change
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2009 was a pitiful year for boxing there was plenty of ****t he missed mentioning. Only thing good in boxing was Pac even at that...
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Close fights, corruption and incompetence
'' It's not rocket science to score a fight.''
No. But sometimes the fight is so close, depending on what you score (effective punching, agressivity, ring generalship), you end up with wide score margins. I remember the Pacquiao-Marquez I scoring. Most people agree to say it was a close fight. One judge had it a draw, the other 115-110 for Pacman, and the third 115-110 for Marquez. I mean what the **** ? Ten points margin between the last 2 scorecards ? It's a clear example of tough scoring that MAY LOOK like corruption or incompetence. There are robberies no one can argue with. Holyfield-Lewis I is a good example. One of the idiotic judges scored the best round Lewis had in the fight in favor of Holy
. She was questionned about that by Lampley and Merchant. She said she scored the fight to the best of her ability. If she admits she has a judgment and ability that poor, she should just lose her job
. Some other fights continue to spark discussions years later, like Leonard-Hagler.
The first Malignaggi-Diaz fight for example. I thought it was a pretty close fight. Malignaggi was getting tagged a lot, backpedalling. The second was not close at all, but I can't blame the scoring in the first fight (minus the one scorecard that had 2 rnds for the Magic man
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Sometimes it's hard to know if we're witnessing corruption or just incompetence. I think there are more incompetent judges than corrupted judges. But I'm not in the business... Just a fan. What can we really do if the most part of the problem is incompetence ?Comment
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Yea but there is a huge difference when someone scores almost every round for someone like Diaz in that first fight. or for Beibut the other night.'' It's not rocket science to score a fight.''
No. But sometimes the fight is so close, depending on what you score (effective punching, agressivity, ring generalship), you end up with wide score margins. I remember the Pacquiao-Marquez I scoring. Most people agree to say it was a close fight. One judge had it a draw, the other 115-110 for Pacman, and the third 115-110 for Marquez. I mean what the **** ? Ten points margin between the last 2 scorecards ? It's a clear example of tough scoring that MAY LOOK like corruption or incompetence. There are robberies no one can argue with. Holyfield-Lewis I is a good example. One of the idiotic judges scored the best round Lewis had in the fight in favor of Holy
. She was questionned about that by Lampley and Merchant. She said she scored the fight to the best of her ability. If she admits she has a judgment and ability that poor, she should just lose her job
. Some other fights continue to spark discussions years later, like Leonard-Hagler.
The first Malignaggi-Diaz fight for example. I thought it was a pretty close fight. Malignaggi was getting tagged a lot, backpedalling. The second was not close at all, but I can't blame the scoring in the first fight (minus the one scorecard that had 2 rnds for the Magic man
).
Sometimes it's hard to know if we're witnessing corruption or just incompetence. I think there are more incompetent judges than corrupted judges. But I'm not in the business... Just a fan. What can we really do if the most part of the problem is incompetence ?Comment
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they need to start posting judges face again on the screen before fights. they use to do that, now they stopped showing them. I feel they need to show their faces again so that when they give out a bad scorecard we can put a face on it. IMO it adds a deterrent to giving bad scores. If you give out a bad score that you know is bad, you might have second thoughts knowing the public knows your name & the face to go along with it.Comment
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Want shane to winFirst off, as a fan of the sport, I am tired of seeing bad decisions week in and week out. As a professional boxer, I get sick to my stomach when I see a guy pour out his guts for twelve rounds, and have some incompetent judge take it away from him. Friday night in Las Vegas was a clear example of why boxing is at it’s worst state when it comes to trust, dignity, and loyalty within its fans, sponsors, and fighters.
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You can't honestly compare Diaz/Malignaggi to funeka/Guzman.Malignaggi didn't dominate or beat Diaz decisively during their first fight and without the wide scoring and had he not threw a tantrum and started crying then I doubt most others would have fallen for his bull****.
Any impartial viewer could tell you that Diaz/Malignaggi was a close fight....funeka/Guzman wasn't.
I haven't seen this fight. Either way the meat of this article is 100% right. I never really was a Malignaggi fan until that post fight interview after Diaz. Most guys just take it on the chin (so to speak) and keep quiet when they get a bad decision. Malignaggi let fly a rant of epic proportions and shamed everyone into giving him a rematch under more neutral circumstances.
And yet Malignaggi didn't utter a word when he was given decisions over Ndou and Ngoudjo.
Malignaggi knew what he was doing and knew how irrelevant he was in the sport.He had just been involved in a close competitive fight and throwing a hissy fit live on air to the viewing of gullible boxing fans who believe any close fight is a robbery was obviously going to gain him support....especially with what he was saying in the lead up.Comment
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