How come nobody ever puts lennox lewis on their top 10 heavyweights of all time lists

[Drunk Punch]

Lennox is on my list.

[Konstantin]

Lewis is 6'5" not 6'6".

And you cannot dismiss Lewis height advantage against his smaller opponents. That's why it's called HEIGHT ADVANTAGE.

Yeah you can. Because height advantages don't win fights. That's stupid like say, if Ali didn't have a speed advantage, if Roy Jones didn't have a reflex advantage...

People take what they are born with and the ones that are great win. No need in bringing up something like a height advantage.

[the niggest]

Lewis is 6'5" not 6'6".

And you cannot dismiss Lewis height advantage against his smaller opponents. That's why it's called HEIGHT ADVANTAGE.

Yeah I might have been wrong about his exact height, but yes sometimes it is an advantage but do you seriously think that height was the ONLY reason for his success?

as I said before Tye Fields is 6'8...

[!! Shawn]

I'd have him just inside the top 10 or just outside of it. I think though that the reason he gets so much hate is because he is British, and god forbid a British fighter ever becomes an ATG.

Last I checked he fought for Canada in the Olympics.

[the niggest]

Last I checked he fought for Canada in the Olympics.

He was born and raised in London and moved to Canada as a 12 year old then I think he moved back to the UK in his 20's. Anyway he fought for the UK in the proffesionals and he considers himself British, that is all that matters.

If I move to China and get a citizenship does that make me Chinese?

[P4P Opinion]

1992 - deliberately priced himself out of a fight with undisputed heavyweight champion of the world Riddick Bowe.

Pure conjecture. Not a good start to your list.

1993 - Lewis fights Class C fighters rather than the best in the division.

Tony Tucker and Frank Bruno, both alphabet belt holders at one time or another. I'm not sure what you consider C class fighters to be. I'm not sure who he should have been fighting here. Anyway, this is just your personal spin on the period.

1994 - Lewis gets poleaxed in less than 2rds by Mike Tyson sparring partner/journeyman Oliver McCall..

I'll correct this for you: Lewis gets TKO'd in controversial fashion after the referee refuses to allow him to continue despite the fight being a championship bout and Lewis beating the count comfortably.

1995 - Lewis turns down $10 million to fight Riddick Bowe.

Give me a source. I'm not saying you're wrong here, but I want some proof.

1996 - Lewis turns down career highest payday of $15 million and gauranteed shot at the title by accepting meagre $3 million step-a-side money from Mike Tyson so that Tyson can win 2nd belt from Bruce Seldon.

Again, give me a source. As I understand it, Tyson wanted nothing to do with Lewis at the time and Lewis couldn't get the fight.

1997 - Lewis wins vacant WBC title in farsical rematch with McCall who is only days out of Drug-Rehab...

Hardly the fault of Lewis. It's up to McCall what shape he enters the bout in.

1998 - Lewis wins liner title from Shannon Briggs.

...and your problem with this is? Briggs has to be one of the weakest linear champions of all-time, but he was still the champ.

1999 - Lewis agrees to face a Class A opponent for 1st time in his career by fighting Evander Holyfield who many feel is past his best.. Fight declared a draw with most feeling Lewis was the worthy winner, immediate rematch ordered.
1999 - Lewis vs Holyfield rematch goes the full 12rds with Lewis declared the winner yet most at ringside feeling Holyfield was the clear winner..

Who on Earth scored the second fight for Holyfield? You simply don't know how to score a fight if you thought Holyfield won that fight. It was closer than the first fight, but still a clear Lewis victory. Holyfield was probably past his best, but he was still World-class opposition.

2000 - Lewis refuses to fight the No1 contender John Ruiz so is stripped of the WBA Title.. Lewis continues to fight Class C opponents.

Oh ****! He didn't fight John Ruiz! Take him out of the top fifty! Michael Grant was hyped as the next big American heavyweight and it isn't the fault of Lewis if he didn't match the hype. I'd hardly call David Tua C-class either.

2001 - Lewis gets poleaxed by mediocre journeyman Hasim Rahman and takes Rahman to court for immediate rematch..Lewis wins titles back in return fight.

Fair enough. If you ask me, this is the stain on his career. Lewis should have never lost to Rahman. I give him credit for taking care of business in the rematch however.

2002 - Lewis stripped of IBF Title for refusing to fight No1 contender..Lewis fights Mike Tyson for career highest purse, Tyson only shell of the fighter he was a decade or more ago.

Can you blame Lewis for going after a career high payday and a fight against Mike Tyson instead of a nobody contender? Lewis had wanted a fight with Tyson for years. This version of Tyson was indeed a shell of the former champion, but still better than 90% of the rest of the division.

2003 - Lewis looks overweight and lethargic in fortunately beating late substitute Vitali Klitschko in epic battle..Klitschko demands rematch.
2004 - Lewis announces retirement days before he is to be stripped of final belt for refusing to fight rematch with Vitali Klitschko.

Oh Lewis was certainly fortunate that Klitschko was cut because it was a close fight, but anyone claiming that he was definately going to lose is talking crap. Lewis was down by a round or two at most, but had won the last two rounds before the bout was stopped. I would have liked to have seen a rematch, but Lewis did the smart thing and called it a day, realising that he had just passed his expiration date.

Lewis is in any credible top ten heavyweight list.

[BritishBoxing92]

IS it just cuz he got knocked out by 2 average fighters??

Dude check my signature and in the Top 10 HW off all time Lennox Lewis Is Definately there

[P4P Opinion]

Dude check my signature and in the Top 10 HW off all time Lennox Lewis Is Definately there

Not a bad list, although Liston wouldn't have made my list and I think both Tyson and Dempsey are a little high.

My List:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Larry Holmes
6. Lennox Lewis
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Mike Tyson
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey

Note: If Gene Tunney had fought more at heavyweight, he'd have to replace Dempsey who I must admit I consider to be a little romanticised thanks to the period he represented.

[BritishBoxing92]

Not a bad list, although Liston wouldn't have made my list and I think both Tyson and Dempsey are a little high.

My List:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Larry Holmes
6. Lennox Lewis
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Mike Tyson
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey

Note: If Gene Tunney had fought more at heavyweight, he'd have to replace Dempsey who I must admit I consider to be a little romanticised thanks to the period he represented.

Dude gimme some credit man lol im 17 and only got into boxing about 1 year and a half ago...so far so good researched etc into loads of boxers and watched there documentaries and fights.....and Hayes the man lets hope he beats Ruiz in My Home City

[P4P Opinion]

Dude gimme some credit man lol im 17 and only got into boxing about 1 year and a half ago...so far so good researched etc into loads of boxers and watched there documentaries and fights.....and Hayes the man lets hope he beats Ruiz in My Home City

Hah, fair enough. Keep up the research. Just bought my ticket for the Haye-Ruiz fight. I just hope Ruiz doesn't stink the joint out too much. I imagine Haye will get him in the later rounds though.