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  • Eaner0919
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    #51
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    LOL! You make an excellent point.
    it would have been had it been true

    Capetillo is not training Tony

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    • tornillo57
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      #52
      Eaner0919,

      Do you think that Williams will have a 147 lbs fight again in the near future? Nobody wanted to fight him down there and maybe his body won't tolerate that drain anymore. Do you think he will stay for a while in 154 or go up to 160?

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      • Eaner0919
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        #53
        Originally posted by tornillo57
        Eaner0919,

        Do you think that Williams will have a 147 lbs fight again in the near future? Nobody wanted to fight him down there and maybe his body won't tolerate that drain anymore. Do you think he will stay for a while in 154 or go up to 160?
        honestly no even though P and his trainer say he can still do it there isn't a market there for him

        let's be honest, while P is an elite fighter, he has no market share whatsoever

        Goossen fkked that up by sending him to Cali for the vast majority of his fights, never developing a market in areas where he could pull in numbers like DC or ATL

        now people will counter that those markets are dry but if so how do you explain Fernando Guerrero's pull in VA? he is doing really good gate numbers in the DC area

        PWill is best served fighting the elite at 154 and 160 where he can win and be the man at both weights

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        • tornillo57
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          #54
          Originally posted by Eaner0919
          honestly no even though P and his trainer say he can still do it there isn't a market there for him

          let's be honest, while P is an elite fighter, he has no market share whatsoever

          Goossen fkked that up by sending him to Cali for the vast majority of his fights, never developing a market in areas where he could pull in numbers like DC or ATL

          now people will counter that those markets are dry but if so how do you explain Fernando Guerrero's pull in VA? he is doing really good gate numbers in the DC area

          PWill is best served fighting the elite at 154 and 160 where he can win and be the man at both weights
          Maybe he can do 147 like his trainer says, but I don't think it would be healthy for him to keep jumping divisions like that.

          Can you imagine him fighting Pacman @ 147 lbs !! LOL



          I think the market will eventually come for him no matter what weight he fights in. He's such a good fighter.

          I saw him win by 1 point over Martinez. Many people say Martinez won. What you think? That was a heck of a fight.

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          • freedom213
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            #55
            Originally posted by Zerwas1
            He busted Williams up pretty bad, but only started to fight for the second half of the fight.
            strange, too.
            marg's trainer said himself he always wrapped tony's hands the same way(incidentally his wraps were illegal also with tape across knuckles). He was caught fair and square and I think he has used them for a long long time.

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              #56
              Originally posted by freedom213
              marg's trainer said himself he always wrapped tony's hands the same way(incidentally his wraps were illegal also with tape across knuckles). He was caught fair and square and I think he has used them for a long long time.


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              • heat27
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                #57
                after the paul williams fight

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                • Marlin26
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                  #58
                  personally Marg should recieve jailtime, Boxing is a dangerous sport involved with one competator trying to knockout their opponent, this is dangerous in its own right and their have been deaths in boxing, adding a rock hard substance to your wraps should be considered either assualt with a deadly weapon or intent to kill.

                  not only this but he uses Cleto Reyes gloves which are famous for being punchers gloves meaning their is less padding situated over the knuckles.

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                  • baCCaT
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                    #59
                    you can be punished for something you did
                    you cant be punished for something you're a suspect of..

                    he was already punished for trying to cheat..

                    alot have been taken away from AM already. he deserves a second chance just like everybody else. if fans doesnt accept that, just put yourselves in his shoes.

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                    • tornillo57
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by rottentothecore
                      you can be punished for something you did
                      you cant be punished for something you're a suspect of..
                      That's the other side of the coin. Well expressed.

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