Prime Hagler vs Prime Toney

[lefthook2daliva]

This fantasy matchup was inspired by recent Frochtards...

So who ya' got and why?

I'll take Marvelous by close UD based on ambidextrous ring generalship leading to more clean punching and straight up stubborn will to win.


Poll otw

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Toney was still improving at middleweight. He wasn't very consistent, looking brilliant against McCallum in the first fight, and then looking awful later against Tiberi and not as good in the rematch with McCallum.

Toney loved guys to come at him so he could counter effectively. Hagler most likely would box him from the outside as he usually did, as it would be in his best interest to do so. Hagler's busy jab would give Toney all sorts of problems as it did to most opponents. So would the lateral movement. Toney would get some shots in, but Hagler had a great chin anyway. Toney would hold his own

Hagler wins a competitive but clear decision.

If it's at 168, where Toney peaked (and put on much more weight after the weigh-in), then he has a better chance. I think Hagler has the versatility and skills to be effective at the higher weight, but you never really know how a guy will perform at a higher weight.

[lefthook2daliva]

Toney was still improving at middleweight. He wasn't very consistent, looking brilliant against McCallum in the first fight, and then looking awful later against Tiberi and not as good in the rematch with McCallum.

Toney loved guys to come at him so he could counter effectively. Hagler most likely would box him from the outside as he usually did, as it would be in his best interest to do so. Hagler's busy jab would give Toney all sorts of problems as it did to most opponents. So would the lateral movement. Toney would get some shots in, but Hagler had a great chin anyway. Toney would hold his own

Hagler wins a competitive but clear decision.

If it's at 168, where Toney peaked (and put on much more weight after the weigh-in), then he has a better chance. I think Hagler has the versatility and skills to be effective at the higher weight, but you never really know how a guy will perform at a higher weight.

Very well said. I also feel that Tiberi was an aberration. I can't really argue with anything you've said here regarding either fighter.

Guess my point w/this thread is how quite a few mssg boarders don't give Hagler credit for how skilled he was as a pure boxer.

[MARKBNLV]

12 or 15 rds?

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Very well said. I also feel that Tiberi was an aberration. I can't really argue with anything you've said here regarding either fighter.

Guess my point w/this thread is how quite a few mssg boarders don't give Hagler credit for how skilled he was as a pure boxer.

I've ranted numerous times about the misconception of Hagler's style.

He was a versatile fighter, first and foremost a boxer at range, but could also apply pressure and brawl too.

[daggum]

here is how to do an accurate fantasy fight matchup. take fighter A's best performance hagler vs hearns and pit it against fighter B's worst performance toney vs tiberi. then we get the winner! hagler by ko 5 easy work.

[lefthook2daliva]

12 or 15 rds?

Take your pick as long as you explain your conclusion.