Floyd Going Toe to Toe

[DLT]

But you can also point to the corley fight as the very reason why he no longer goes toe to toe with anyone.

How is that? Chop is my man but that fight is so overrated from the standpoint you are talking about. The man won either 11 or 12 rounds in the fight, didnt come close to taking any punishment after round 4, and got caught by a good punch from a Southpaw while he was throwing. A punch that probably wouldve stopped nearly everyone else in boxing or atleast dropped them. Not only did he take it but most think he came back and won the round. Floyd's D is so great that if he ever gets hit clean then people make it sound like he took a beating or was in a brutally tough fight. **** is so funny. He's the only guy in boxing that can pitch a shutout or near shutout and everyone act like it was some kind of war or struggle. Its a joke. It was his 1st time against a Southpaw in a million years and only the 2nd of his whole career. If you noticed, he used the shoulder roll nearly that whole fight. Since then he hardly ever uses the shoulder roll against a Southpaw

[DLT]

Oh snap. Now Floyd is on the same level as Berbick and Hernandez was washed up & shot like Ali? Wow

[Sweet Jesus]

If XYLOCAINE MAN wasnt on XYLOCAINE he would get KTFO.

That fight happened in New Jersey. You better change your story to Xylocaine being banned in only 48 states now.

[EMIL2010]

That fight happened in New Jersey. You better change your story to Xylocaine being banned in only 48 states now.

XYLOCAINE MAN cheated drug test.

MICHAEL PHELPS is smoking weed 24/7 and he never got tested positive!

[shadeyfizzle]

How is that? Chop is my man but that fight is so overrated from the standpoint you are talking about. The man won either 11 or 12 rounds in the fight, didnt come close to taking any punishment after round 4, and got caught by a good punch from a Southpaw while he was throwing. A punch that probably wouldve stopped nearly everyone else in boxing or atleast dropped them. Not only did he take it but most think he came back and won the round. Floyd's D is so great that if he ever gets hit clean then people make it sound like he took a beating or was in a brutally tough fight. **** is so funny. He's the only guy in boxing that can pitch a shutout or near shutout and everyone act like it was some kind of war or struggle. Its a joke. It was his 1st time against a Southpaw in a million years and only the 2nd of his whole career. If you noticed, he used the shoulder roll nearly that whole fight. Since then he hardly ever uses the shoulder roll against a Southpaw

I mean from a standpoint that Corley was not even close to being as good of a fighter as Floyd but he learned that when he goes for the finish he opens himself up for something that shouldnt normally hit him. And he's never opened up on the offense since then.

[DLT]

I mean from a standpoint that Corley was not even close to being as good of a fighter as Floyd but he learned that when he goes for the finish he opens himself up for something that shouldnt normally hit him. And he's never opened up on the offense since then.

yeah but I still think that had far more to do with the Southpaw thing as those are the only fights he rarely ever gets hit clean and when he got really really hurt, that was more of a fluke thing. He threw and missed. Then he came back with the other hand at the same exact time Chop was punching and Chop's got there 1st. What about the Gatti & Mitchell fights? I think Floyd changed when he met Baldomire and he was 146 in the ring and Baldy was 165. Thats when he really changed. Floyd walked down both Zab & Mitchell and threw a ton against Gatti. Im hoping that now that he's grown into his WW frame he will start to let his hands go more. The Mosley fight is maybe the final test. It is his 1st fight agaisnt a really big aggressive cat so maybe it wont fully be the final test but it probably still will be. If he lets his hands go then he will continue with it but if he doesnt then its probably gone out him forever

[shadeyfizzle]

yeah but I still think that had far more to do with the Southpaw thing as those are the only fights he rarely ever gets hit clean and when he got really really hurt, that was more of a fluke thing. He threw and missed. Then he came back with the other hand at the same exact time Chop was punching and Chop's got there 1st. What about the Gatti & Mitchell fights? I think Floyd changed when he met Baldomire and he was 146 in the ring and Baldy was 165. Thats when he really changed. Floyd walked down both Zab & Mitchell and threw a ton against Gatti. Im hoping that now that he's grown into his WW frame he will start to let his hands go more. The Mosley fight is maybe the final test. It is his 1st fight agaisnt a really big aggressive cat so maybe it wont fully be the final test but it probably still will be. If he lets his hands go then he will continue with it but if he doesnt then its probably gone out him forever

He didnt exactly open up on the offense against Judah and Mitchell neither. He picked his shots and countershots and that's all i meant concerning the Corley fight. When you're letting your hands go freely you open yourself up to a possibly tide turning shot. So ever since then i felt floyd would get out to an early lead then simply protect it as opposed to going for the finish.

And I disagree about Mosley. I think Floyd will never let his hands go ever again because he is not a risk taker. He likes to carve out a points lead and protect it. If Floyd ever has a 3-4round deficit going into the championship rounds he would be f***d because he simply isnt a risk taker.

[DLT]

He didnt exactly open up on the offense against Judah and Mitchell neither. He picked his shots and countershots and that's all i meant concerning the Corley fight. When you're letting your hands go freely you open yourself up to a possibly tide turning shot. So ever since then i felt floyd would get out to an early lead then simply protect it as opposed to going for the finish.

And I disagree about Mosley. I think Floyd will never let his hands go ever again because he is not a risk taker. He likes to carve out a points lead and protect it. If Floyd ever has a 3-4round deficit going into the championship rounds he would be f***d because he simply isnt a risk taker.

Im not sold on the last part yet. I think its still in him, e****ally with his added weight. As for the top part, again they were Southpaws so he was going to be more cautious anyways because you can get caught by something. He still walked them down and wouldve let his hands go even more if they werent going backwards all night. Chop wasnt running nearly as much and I dont think Floyd fears getting caught as much with the high guard as he does with the shoulder roll against the Southpaws. We shall find out soon enough though. I dont think he's had a chance to prove lately if he will let his hands go or not. Or should I say a full chance. Again, Baldy was huge and Floyd was so small at that time. Oscar was also much bigger and I genuinely think Floyd was worried if he could compete fully at 154 and take an Oscar punch, e****ally since he had just decapitated Mayorga and everyone was telling him dont get caught by the hook. Then in the Hatton fight Ricky was smothering him all night like an idiot. Even Manny Steward and Hatton's own trainer was saying that he needs to backup because he's so close that not only is he smother Floyd's punches but he's also smothering his own.

Then against JMM I was for sure that he was going to open up and stop him coming in so I was a little dissapointed until I rewatched the fight and I can totally understand now. 1st off he was a little cautious after the long layoff and JMM realized very early that he wasnt quick enough to get to Floyd so he basically started to wait on Floyd. Then you have Floyd basically trying to run in against the one guy in boxing who many say is a better counter puncher than Floyd. JMM looked like a cobra. I mean even the way he was standing looked scary like if Floyd threw then he was getting countered without a doubt. Floyd knew that if he sat back then he would dominate. We will find out more against Shane because he has the speed to match Floyd and he wont sit back. I think Floyd will let his hands go unless the physicality is a total shock to Floyd's system which is possible after the layoff and only fighting the small JMM and then going straight to Shane. I think he will be Offensive in that fight though or atleast way more than people think

[check hook]

He didnt exactly open up on the offense against Judah and Mitchell neither. He picked his shots and countershots and that's all i meant concerning the Corley fight. When you're letting your hands go freely you open yourself up to a possibly tide turning shot. So ever since then i felt floyd would get out to an early lead then simply protect it as opposed to going for the finish.

And I disagree about Mosley. I think Floyd will never let his hands go ever again because he is not a risk taker. He likes to carve out a points lead and protect it. If Floyd ever has a 3-4round deficit going into the championship rounds he would be f***d because he simply isnt a risk taker.

He crushed Mitchell with a body shot and even smacked hime with a str8 left from a southpaw stance......thats just pure arrogance right there....

[Talon]

i dont see how landing a good body shot is arrogance but going southpaw can be seen that way.. floyd is really good southpaw though why shouldn't he use it? watch him against the big show, he uses a southpaw stance and does some pretty nice things even if it is fake. he obviously can fight southpaw. if anybody can, he can.