If Manny Pacquiao were an American he’d be considered the greatest boxer ever

[shadeyfizzle]

I wouldn't rank him the greatest. But many people would (**** some people already do!).

Personally, I think it's impossible for a modern day fighter to take the #1 spot. Unless they fight 200 times.

Muhammad Ali is top 2 or 3 in almost everyone's list having only fought 65 times.

Pacquiao has already fought 57 times.

[jrosales13]

like Pac STANS always do..revert to name calling ::smdh::
understand one thing..I dont need to get together with anyone because I represent myself..I dont have some corny ass mannyPac mafia avatar in contrast to the other "mafias"..you Loathe Floyd because you have never said a single good thing about him. yet you blow up Pac to be this great fighter.. who beat washed up, old fighters..and 60% of his resume consist of bums.. and you have the nerve to rank him top 30..GTFOH with bull**** real quick..
I dont know who this other poster is..here I am trying to tell him that indeed you are really a Pac lover, thats why i quoted him to begin with..but you seem to have a hard time comprehending that..
look at my avatar..now look at your avatar..
we know whos really swallowing the nutsack now..dont we!

Check this link out and look how I go back and forth with a poster who does not believe Floyd has any toughness yet I disagree because I think Floyd is tough, IMO his toughness is underrated...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7035995&highlight=floyd+toughness#post7035995

I am going to keep finding you more link where I say good things about Floyd... Now show me where you have said any good thing about Pac... I bet you can't cuz you are a ****riding faggot

Look how I ranked Floyd ahead of Pac...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6679474&highlight=arguello#post6679474

Again pretty much saying where I rank Floyd at 130...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7305413&highlight=arguello#post7305413

[top8gun]

youre too kind...thank you..I owe you one someday ::wink::

now I can feel important as i sit in the internet cafe on a boxing forum all day.
now I have meaning and I dont feel powerless that Im stuck in a life that I cant escape...now that I have this it makes me feel powerful..now I can live vicariously through a boxer because I too have power..how can I ever repay you?

you sound like yourself

[American Dream]

What is this infatuation with my avatar?

I have given Floyd credit when is he deserves it... I don't just go out there and give Floyd bull**** reasons like you do... You talk about I blow up Pac like this great fighter and I have never any single good thing about Floyd... But, is not true... Ask Ray' who is a Floyd fan if I don't give Floyd credit, ask Jkaisen who is another Floyd fan if I have not given Floyd credit or said good things about him... Go ask around... But, you on the other hand don't say nothing good about Pac but yet don't ever question Floyd either. In your eyes Floyd can't do no wrong. I am sorry I am no **** rider yea I might have a Pac avatar but make no mistake about it I have got into with Pac fans. You on the other keep sucking on Floyd **** every single one of your posts about Pac is hatred and every single on of your posts about Floyd is **** riding... check the history bro GTFOH with your bull****...

The only fighter I have always defended on here non stop is Felix Trinidad and the only one who I have really hated and downgraded has been Oscar De la Hoya... Anything after that I have given credit, questioned, defended... You on the other hand just been ****riding....

**** riding is what you have been doing..there is no infatuation with your corny ass avatar, but you are the one repping it!...and In my eyes Floyd can do no wrong in my eyes?..wtf...Floyd isnt even my favorite fighter..when do I give reasons..Ive only came at you with facts regarding fighters records..I dont need to ask around if you give Floyd credit, because its written by your post daily..you give me 3 names to verify it..but if it was that evident it would show in your post...and when do you ever question Pac..I ask again, when?..you MUST NOT have read my comments on the Mosley/May debacle for you to say some dumb **** that I never question Floyd..you can keep swinging on Pacs nuts 24/7..and make excuses for him fighting washed up/drained fighters.and putting him in the top 30 based off that!..

[MexicanMauler]

He'll never be ranked above Ali, unless he takes those drug tests.
or else he'll be remembered as the greatest roider of all time.

[COVID-19]

January 25, 10:57 AMSacramento Fight Sports ExaminerRick Rockwell

For a country that opens its doors to people from all over the world, it sure has a tough time allowing non-American athletes into the realm of “Greatest of All-Time”. If you examine some of the country’s major sports you can see a history of this. Now, I don’t believe it’s racially motivated. However, I do think it is more of a matter of pride and ignorance.

If you look down the list of who Americans think are the greatest boxers ever, you will see a mixture of races: from Dempsey to Marciano, from Joe Louis to Muhammad Ali, and from Sugar Ray Leonard to Mike Tyson. So Pacquiao’s ascent to all-time greatness isn’t blocked by racial barriers, but due to pride and ignorance. If you look at other sports you can see this happening to foreign athletes as well.

Yao Ming is probably the most popular basketball player in the world thanks to 1 billion Chinese fans. However, that doesn’t make America think he’s the greatest big man in the sport today, tomorrow, or historically. He’s often compared to Shaq and overlooked for Dwight Howard. Hakeem Olajuwon was a phenomenal big man in the NBA, but he was often overshadowed by lesser accomplished big men like Patrick Ewing.

In tennis, Roger Federer is arguably the greatest tennis player of all-time but Americans won’t put him ahead of John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors and Pete Sampras. Even Andy Rod**** gets as much media coverage and more hype than Roger. Yet, Roger has more championships than any of them.

In track and field, Usain Bolt is a phenom but even another dominate performance at the next summer Olympics won’t put him on the same level as Carl Lewis and Michael Johnson in the minds of most Americans.

Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin are the faces of the NHL yet American media and fans still focus more on who the next great American will be. If Wayne Gretzky was American, and not Canadian, he would be considered a hero like Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.

Some of these examples might be crude at best, but you get the point. American media and fans tend to put Americans only at the top of the “Greatest of All-Time” list. It’s a shame too, because athletes like Manny Pacquiao have accomplished more in their respective sports than most American athletes can ever dream of.

America needs to wake up from its prideful and ignorant thinking and start realizing that their fellow countrymen aren’t exclusive to this “Greatest of All-Time” club. The world has phenomenal athletes too and on March 13th America will see one in action right in the stadium of America’s team.

[jrosales13]

**** riding is what you have been doing..there is no infatuation with your corny ass avatar, but you are the one repping it!...and In my eyes Floyd can do no wrong in my eyes?..wtf...Floyd isnt even my favorite fighter..when do I give reasons..Ive only came at you with facts regarding fighters records..I dont need to ask around if you give Floyd credit, because its written by your post daily..you give me 3 names to verify it..but if it was that evident it would show in your post...and when do you ever question Pac..I ask again, when?..you MUST NOT have read my comments on the Mosley/May debacle for you to say some dumb **** that I never question Floyd..you can keep swinging on Pacs nuts 24/7..and make excuses for him fighting washed up/drained fighters.and putting him in the top 30 based off that!..

I just gave you a link where I gave Floyd credit and I can get more... So just STFU cuz I am not a hater and a **** rider like you...

Show me a link where you gave Pac any credit? You can't cuz you a **** riding faggot for Floyd and a Pac hater...

Show me a link where you have ever questioned Floyd...

Every time somebody gets on here and start ranking him too high, I get on them, go ahead and check my history... I have had debates with Pacdpest... I have had plenty of debates with other Pac fans on where they rank Pac... Not once have I said that the Oscar win was a great win... I don't give Pac credit for that win, I give him credit for HOW he won. But, NOT for the win itself cuz I understand that was not the 90's version of Oscar...

I have given Floyd credit plenty of times for giving Castillo a rematch when he didn't have too, I have said plenty of times that Floyd is easily top 3 greatest SFW of all time. I have him ranked #2 behind Arguello but it could easily be argued that Floyd is the G.O.A.T in that division... I have given him credit for that... When have you given Pac credit? Never right? if I am lying show me... But, you such a fucking hater that you won't give him any credit... Keep sucking on Floyd **** you faggot... I am through with you cocksuckers...

[American Dream]

I just gave you a link where I gave Floyd credit and I can get more... So just STFU cuz I am not a hater and a **** rider like you...

Show me a link where you gave Pac any credit? You can't cuz you a **** riding faggot for Floyd and a Pac hater...

Show me a link where you have ever questioned Floyd...

Every time somebody gets on here and start ranking him too high, I get on them, go ahead and check my history... I have had debates with Pacdpest... I have had plenty of debates with other Pac fans on where they rank Pac... Not once have I said that the Oscar win was a great win... I don't give Pac credit for that win, I give him credit for HOW he won. But, NOT for the win itself cuz I understand that was not the 90's version of Oscar...

I have given Floyd credit plenty of times for giving Castillo a rematch when he didn't have too, I have said plenty of times that Floyd is easily top 3 greatest SFW of all time. I have him ranked #2 behind Arguello but it could easily be argued that Floyd is the G.O.A.T in that division... I have given him credit for that... When have you given Pac credit? Never right? if I am lying show me... But, you such a fucking hater that you won't give him any credit... Keep sucking on Floyd **** you faggot... I am through with you cocksuckers...

lmao @ the name calling..it never fails, Pac STANS always revert to that..

showing you a link where I give Pac credit doesnt define a "**** rider", because I am genuinely not a fan of his..but showing you a link where I question Floyd defines that Im not one...so I want you to show me a link where you question Pac..not a link where you give Floyd a few bones..but a link where you question Pac (like for choosing Clottey..ect)?
you say that you dont give Pac credit for the DLH win cause that wasnt the 90s version..so that means you dont give him credit for Morales/Barrera either right?..you have him ranked in your top 30 with a resume of 60% bums..and wins over washed up fighters..Pac is an entertaining fighter..but I prefer skills over anything..grow up and stop the name calling and instead be a man and argue me with facts..you rank Pac higher than Floyd..yes or no?..onto links::

when there was talk of fight with Paulie...and I wanted him to face Mosley instead:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7221745#post7221745

where I rank Mosley as the number 1 welter over Floyd:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7302584#post7302584

so if Im a "**** rider" as you claim..wouldnt I have Floyd as the #1 welter..and wouldnt I just take any opponent..instead of saying he Must fight Mosley...exactly...

[Schmerzen]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
he would be just one of 1000 superstars out of the states.
who did he beat to be the greatest?
tell me one guy he beat u would rank over floyd patterson or sonny liston?
who did he ever beat u would rank over george foreman?
one?
if he wants to be ranked on the same level as robinson and ali, then he has to take the test and then beat floyd ( will never happen ).
robinson wouldnt cry around like a ***** about a simple random bloodtest, forget about suing his potentially opponent just for promotion.
who ever wrote the article, please go and shoot yourself in the head, the world doesnt need another *******

[Bacatit]

He'll never be ranked above Ali, unless he takes those drug tests.
or else he'll be remembered as the greatest roider of all time.

It's that simple