GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT TALK with LEFTY "PILLAR TO POST'

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

It's ******.... if bernard wins... it means nothing cuz Roy hasnt beaten an elite fighter in 7 years.

If Roy wins, bernard is 45 god damn years old.

Roy & B Hop = SUper Rivals who cannot stand each other who could have made a lucrative fight at anytime they wanted to at any weight. Instead they opted for the I aint letting him make no money off my name route...At this point like you said they are both non factors in any division but I think one still wants to prove to the other he can beast him....Lefty

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

So post you name if you want to get it in on the first show with the Segment of this PILLAR TO POST I want too guys If Buly and REED want in let me know...I would like to go find Crillz and Jack and let them two finish out their heated debate...Lefty

[THE REED]

No but beating Genaro Hernandez in his 18th pro fight and taking tha title was a very big step up from Miguel Melo whom he fought two fights earlier....Angel Manfredy had a W over Arturo Gatti at 135lbs and as you look back his name is not going to stick out but at the time he was a contender and a very good Title Defense and test for a young Floyd who was now 18-0 and had a title as at 130...Lefty

Manfredy being good has nothing to do with him saying "as you can see... Floyd fought the better competition".

[SplitSecond]

No but beating Genaro Hernandez in his 18th pro fight and taking tha title was a very big step up from Miguel Melo whom he fought two fights earlier....Angel Manfredy had a W over Arturo Gatti at 135lbs and as you look back his name is not going to stick out but at the time he was a contender and a very good Title Defense and test for a young Floyd who was now 18-0 and had a title as at 130...Lefty

well the guy had only pacquiaos big wins(against ATG's and ****)
while he had manfredy and juuko(who the hell??) and ALOT of other no names along with hatton and hoya in between but still

can't really compare

[THE REED]

So post you name if you want to get it in on the first show with the Segment of this PILLAR TO POST I want too guys If Buly and REED want in let me know...I would like to go find Crillz and Jack and let them two finish out their heated debate...Lefty

Like I said before... me and Bully have both come to the conclusion the debate ends in a stalemate.

We could talk for hours about what each have done.. but he isn't going to tell me something about Bernard that I don't already know, and I am not going to tell him something about Roy that he doesn't already know.

On top of that, we already rank their resumes about even... We would be agreeing with eachother probably moreso than not.

I can't really prove to you Roy has a better career than Bernard, and he can't do it vice versa...


I think Horus - Jrosales on Pac-Floyd would be where it's at.

[SplitSecond]

just searched for the vid, what he has in the description

Established big name fighters that Manny has fought (11):
Jorge Julio, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Erik Moralez, Hector Velazquez, Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis, David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto

Established big name fighters that Floyd has fought(22):
Tony Pep, Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios, Justin Juuko, Carlos Gerena, Gregorio Vargas, Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chaves, Jose Luis Castillo, Victoriano Sosa, Phillip N'dou, DeMarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles, Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez.

Floyd has fought exactly twice as many quality opponents as Manny has. Floyd beat these fighters when they were at the top of their game in most cases. Manny beat De La Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto after they were already mentally defeated. They weren't peaked out. They folded.

[Fighting Marine]

So post you name if you want to get it in on the first show with the Segment of this PILLAR TO POST I want too guys If Buly and REED want in let me know...I would like to go find Crillz and Jack and let them two finish out their heated debate...Lefty

HAHHAHHAHA....Lefty i like your optimism, but Jack is the biggest ****, ****, piece of ****e, wanker on this site so dont bet on it......reed and bully might have a more civilised debate....Crillz is awesome but jack kept on talking over him and wouldnt let him respond to his gay ass question....**** you JACK 'THA *****' Ripper

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

HAHHAHHAHA....Lefty i like your optimism, but Jack is the biggest ****, ****, piece of ****e, wanker on this site so dont bet on it......reed and bully might have a more civilised debate....Crillz is awesome but jack kept on talking over him and wouldnt let him respond to his gay ass question....**** you JACK 'THA *****' Ripper

Are you Stone roses my man?....Lefty

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Like I said before... me and Bully have both come to the conclusion the debate ends in a stalemate.

We could talk for hours about what each have done.. but he isn't going to tell me something about Bernard that I don't already know, and I am not going to tell him something about Roy that he doesn't already know.

On top of that, we already rank their resumes about even... We would be agreeing with eachother probably moreso than not.

I can't really prove to you Roy has a better career than Bernard, and he can't do it vice versa...


I think Horus - Jrosales on Pac-Floyd would be where it's at.

REED but peope listening might not know alot of the stuff you two are going to bring t light my friend...Think along those lines...It is not only you two who need to come to a conclusion it is the listeners...Lefty

[THE REED]

REED but peope listening might not know alot of the stuff you two are going to bring t light my friend...Think along those lines...It is not only you two who need to come to a conclusion it is the listeners...Lefty

It's a good point... But I think as far a debate, it wouldn't be much of a back and forth disagreement... more of a here is Roys career and here is Bernards career. I think you are aiming for the debate worthy topics from posters.

On top of that I always goto the gym from 9-1130.. thats why I always end up coming in late most of the time.

But I would be more than happy to talk about Roy and Bernards career in depth with Bully on your show sometime.