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Pacman is rich and stuburn. His not going to listen to floyd demands. He rather stick it to him not getting the fight. From his view floyd needs the money more than he do. His got alot of sponsors. 40m is just nothing to him. Im just mad I have to wait later on the year.
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Q: If you blood test, is urine testing necessary at all?
A: "Yes, because there are certain things that you're not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin. You have to have a combination of the two. Look, I'd love to have one strand of hair. From a cost and logistical standpoint, the simpler whatever we collect, the better. Not that collecting blood and urine are difficult, but you have to have the proper procedures in place, and account for the shipping, and the state that you need the samples, once collected, to remain in a preserved state where they can be accurately analyzed. You can build those programs. It doesn't take much. We obviously would prefer the simplest mechanism possible. But just pulling a strand of hair is not effective to protect a clean athlete's rights because there is so much that can't be detected in hair, or saliva, or other things."
This article is based on this (facts)
http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com...files/hgh.html
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USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing
Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:
A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.
No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.
It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2
Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.
Read and learn people. The alleged steroid use by Pacquiao is a DEAD issue.Last edited by Lady Fan; 01-22-2010, 09:11 AM.Comment
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Did anybody say he had to be using only HGH and anabolic steroids? No.Q: If you blood test, is urine testing necessary at all?
A: "Yes, because there are certain things that you're not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin. You have to have a combination of the two. Look, I'd love to have one strand of hair. From a cost and logistical standpoint, the simpler whatever we collect, the better. Not that collecting blood and urine are difficult, but you have to have the proper procedures in place, and account for the shipping, and the state that you need the samples, once collected, to remain in a preserved state where they can be accurately analyzed. You can build those programs. It doesn't take much. We obviously would prefer the simplest mechanism possible. But just pulling a strand of hair is not effective to protect a clean athlete's rights because there is so much that can't be detected in hair, or saliva, or other things."
This article is based on this (facts)
http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com...files/hgh.html
Quote:
USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing
Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:
A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.
No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.
It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2
Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.
Read and learn people. The alleged steroid use by Pacquiao is a DEAD issue.
So Philboxing.com (a Philippine boxing site rofl) is the bigger expert on how things work because the writer knows how to google, compared to Victor Conte who worked for BALCO and actually sold the products to athletes, and many other drug experts?Comment
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Once again, read carefully:
Q: If you blood test, is urine testing necessary at all?
A: "Yes, because there are certain things that you're not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin.
You are selective reading. This case is closed as far as everyone is concerned. Only Pacquiao detractors will beat this thing to death in a desperate attempt to prove what? That they were wrong all along. JAT
Last edited by Lady Fan; 01-22-2010, 10:33 AM.Comment
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He has alot of good points but the guy is pitching his product. He lost me when he said that they would have absoutely caught Mosley. Marion Jones was using the same stuff Mosley was on and she was absolutely not caught. I don't know where he's getting his information but the NSAC tests off of the WADA banned substance list which includes EPO and designer drugs...they are limited to urine tests.
This guy sounds like just another salesman pissed that he couldn't get another contract. The guy majored in PHILISOPHY and was a lawyer before working at USADA, he has no medical background!Last edited by madsweeney; 01-22-2010, 10:39 AM.Comment
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Selective reading? You're talking about yourself, right?
Once again, read carefully:
Q: If you blood test, is urine testing necessary at all?
A: "Yes, because there are certain things that you're not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin.
You are selective reading. This case is closed as far as everyone is concerned. Only Pacquiao detractors will beat this thing to death in a desperate attempt to prove what? That they were wrong all along. JATComment
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